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:Could you please take a look at the A-Class review and see what else needs to be done? - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
:Could you please take a look at the A-Class review and see what else needs to be done? - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 19:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)</small>


==Frank Buckles A-Class Review==
You participated in the [[Frank Buckles]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Frank Buckles|A-Class review]]. If you have any further comments on the article or are satisfied with the article as it is, please post on the A-Class review page. Thanks. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 23:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
You participated in the [[Frank Buckles]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Frank Buckles|A-Class review]]. If you have any further comments on the article or are satisfied with the article as it is, please post on the A-Class review page. Thanks. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 23:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
:OK, what's bothering you on the article? I have to say, you haven't been very forthcoming with information, suggestions or anything really. This is my third post to your talk page and the only one that actually recieved a response. I want to clear this up, but at present, you aren't being really helpful. Let me know what is bothering you on the article, hell, even edit the thing if you want. But give me some information to work on, not just "Overlinked article per MoS", because that doesn't tell me anything. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 00:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
:OK, what's bothering you on the article? I have to say, you haven't been very forthcoming with information, suggestions or anything really. This is my third post to your talk page and the only one that actually recieved a response. I want to clear this up, but at present, you aren't being really helpful. Let me know what is bothering you on the article, hell, even edit the thing if you want. But give me some information to work on, not just "Overlinked article per MoS", because that doesn't tell me anything. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 00:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)</small>
:Trying to expand on what he said, what else needs to be unlinked, then? Could you give some examples? –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 01:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:Trying to expand on what he said, what else needs to be unlinked, then? Could you give some examples? –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 01:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

:I'm not sure how much more clear I can be. The article is overlinked. You were given suggestions by another editor who responded to your call for more comments about overlinking but you didn't act on those suggested. In response to each of the concerns I had (references and overlinking) you chose to argue about them rather than act on them. If you're going to nominate an article for A-class then you should be prepared to listen to those who have been there and done that. I have other things to do besides engage in arguments over articles that I've spent time reviewing. I oppose the promotion to A-class and I won't be back to look at it again. You have your three supports so be satisfied with those. End of conversation. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101#top|talk]]) 03:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


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TFA reminder

Notability of ships/shipwrecks

Hi,

I noticed that you prodded Akra Aktion (which is in terrible shape), which I recently added a couple of wikiproject tags to. Just wanted to know if there is any sort of guideline/policy for notability of ships/shipwrecks or if we should just follow the WP:GNG. Would save you some time in future if I knew, as I could have already prodded it as non-notable? regards, ascidian | talk-to-me 21:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notability can be difficult to prove for some ships. Generally the wp:ships scope allows ships like Akira Aktion but I prodded only because of the condition the article is in. However, Akira Aktion might be merged to Empire Strength depending on what another editor who has worked extensively on Empire ships decides what can be done with it. I left a message on his talk page. Brad (talk) 02:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, my source does not say that she was renamed Akira Aktion. The source in that article (link 1) gives an IMO of 5340912 for Akira Aktion, whereas the New Zealand Maritime Index gives an IMO of 5291381 for Empire Strength (but this would have been under a later name), so it would appear that they are separate ships.
We have two choices here, either allow the deletion without prejudict to recreation later, or we bash the article into a shape resembling a ship. Mjroots (talk) 11:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Empire Strength was built in Belfast in 1942. She became E Evangelica in 1965 and ran aground in 1968. Akra Aktion was built in 1957 in Amsterdam as Steven and was later renamed Akra Aktion. She ran aground in 1981. So they cannot be the same ship. Mjroots (talk) 11:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews Jan-Mar 2011

Military history reviewers' award
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your help with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews for the period Jan-Mar 2011, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space

RN Cesare Rossarol

Hi Brad, I am trying to expand the text on RN Cesare Rossarol so that this reading may flow well, but I am Brazilian. Could you take a look and make the appropriate changes if you see fit ?
Thanks, learning is nice ! Krenakarore (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Martel class battleship (1883)

Brad, thanks for your assessment of the article on the Charles Martel class battleship (1883). In your assessment you said that it met all the B class criteria except structure. Please you suggest a structure here that you think would enable to article to become B class.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basic structure for an article is a lead section that summarizes the entire article and then sections below it which contain all of the information. See WP:LEAD. Brad (talk) 17:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I corrected the references that were double wikilinked, but other than a couple, I couldn't see where they were "a mess". Perhaps you could show me what I am missing, so I get clean it up right quick. I have also left you a response on the A-Class review discussion. - NeutralhomerTalk • 01:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please take a look at the A-Class review and see what else needs to be done? - NeutralhomerTalk • 19:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You participated in the Frank Buckles A-Class review. If you have any further comments on the article or are satisfied with the article as it is, please post on the A-Class review page. Thanks. - NeutralhomerTalk • 23:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, what's bothering you on the article? I have to say, you haven't been very forthcoming with information, suggestions or anything really. This is my third post to your talk page and the only one that actually recieved a response. I want to clear this up, but at present, you aren't being really helpful. Let me know what is bothering you on the article, hell, even edit the thing if you want. But give me some information to work on, not just "Overlinked article per MoS", because that doesn't tell me anything. - NeutralhomerTalk • 00:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to expand on what he said, what else needs to be unlinked, then? Could you give some examples? –MuZemike 01:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how much more clear I can be. The article is overlinked. You were given suggestions by another editor who responded to your call for more comments about overlinking but you didn't act on those suggested. In response to each of the concerns I had (references and overlinking) you chose to argue about them rather than act on them. If you're going to nominate an article for A-class then you should be prepared to listen to those who have been there and done that. I have other things to do besides engage in arguments over articles that I've spent time reviewing. I oppose the promotion to A-class and I won't be back to look at it again. You have your three supports so be satisfied with those. End of conversation. Brad (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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