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DYK & ITN[edit]

Symbol question.svg This user has written or expanded 233 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page.

My DYKs are on this sub-page and my ITNs are on this sub-page. Earlier discussions are archived here

Dyk25CE.svg The 25 DYK Medal
For achieving your 25th Did You Know? I hereby award you this big fat medal. Well done. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Dyk50CE.svg The 50 DYK Medal
Trams, mills, railways ... I think Isambard would have been proud of your approach particulary the French ideas, but he would have barred our veteran editor from further progression for supporting a railway that was merely a metre. But he's not here! So more seriously, thank you on behalf of the wiki. (Let me tell you though that the 100 one s a really cool yellowy gold colour). Good luck with the GA and cheers Victuallers (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Dyk100CE.svg The 100 DYK Medal  
As I told you at 50 ... the 100 DYK medal is a really cool shade of yellow. I hope you are not disappointed, as the wiki is not regretful at all of your efforts. Well done. The wiki gets better due to your contributions and its a pleasure to thank you again on behalf of the wiki. See you at 200? Victuallers (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Dyk200CE.svg The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
The D.Y.K. Project thanks you for your tireless contributions. The Interior (Talk) 17:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for PS Castalia[edit]

Thank you for thanking me. I actually noticed only one of the typos, but I use Firefox and it apparently spellchecks everything by default. When I went into edit mode, not only was the error I noticed underlined with a wavy line, so were other things. I had to sort out the genuine mistakes from a lot of "false positives"; I hope I didn't change anything that was right.

You are obviously a very active contributor to Wikipedia. I am mostly a consumer -- I benefit from the work you and others like you do. Thank you very much.

I have no idea whether this is the right place for this comment. You replied to my talk page and this is your talk page, so I hope it is. If not, you will move it. Gms3591 (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Want to expand Peace in Africa for a DYK?[edit]

Hi Mjroots, you and Haus seem to have good access to merchant marine sources. Want to expand Peace in Africa (ship) for DYK? Djembayz (talk) 11:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Any additions to Malahat (schooner) at DYK?[edit]

Hi again! I've put in a self nom for Malahat (schooner) at DYK. Perhaps you can spruce it up a bit. Djembayz (talk) 21:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1912 Brooklands Flanders Monoplane crash[edit]

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Bump. Chris857 (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/De Akkermolen[edit]

Ping. Hope you're doing well. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination[edit]

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DYK nomination of Wendhausen Windmill[edit]

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Eckwersheim derailment has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]


Old discussions are archived here.

Newcourt (Exeter) railway station[edit]

Hi Mjroots, you've protected a version of this article due to move warring, but the version you've protected is not the long term stable version. Per WP:RM, normally the long term stable version should be the default if there is a dispute, unless a move request determines otherwise. In this case, the version from 21 July 2013 through to 17 September 2016 was Newcourt railway station, Exeter, so could you please move it back to there, and any users who want an alternative location can file a move request? Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 21:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Please leave it at the proper location. Thank you. Useddenim (talk) 01:46, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
@Useddenim: this is not the proper location, for the reasons I have explained at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. You may disagree with me, but as this was a controversial move, per usual practice at WP:RM, it must be restored to its long term stable title until consensus is formed to move it elsewhere. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
@Amakuru: and Useddenim. Naturally, I've protected it at the WP:WRONGVERSION. The move protection is to stop a move war and encourage discussion. It is not necessarily an endorsement of the current title. There is the WP:RM system available for editors to use to gain consensus on which title the article should be housed at. I accept that all moves were made in good faith, but the cumulative effect was a move war, which is why I move protected the article. Mjroots (talk) 07:02, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
WRONGVERSION surely doesn't apply to RM discussions, because there is a process in place for that, which automatically recognizes the long term stable version as the correct version. I agree there should be an RM discussion, but it should take place with the article at its original location, otherwise it's confusing for all users. That's even why we have a section called "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" at WP:RMT. The default location in the event of a dispute is always the long term one. I would go and request this to be reverted at that venue, but I don't want to override your decision to protect, and would prefer that you do the reverting yourself. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 07:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
@Amakuru: I meant WRONGVERSION in the sense that it was bound to be wrong for somebody. I've moved the article back to the stable title as requested. You should now open the RM discussion. I won't be taking part in it as I have no strong feelings either way and consider myself WP:INVOLVED. Mjroots (talk) 07:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)


FWIW, I think the post made by the IP was made by someone at the seminary where I am typing this who I have been discussing various possibilities regarding a parallel Bible project on the WF and gathering together material for a still theoretical interdenominational i-phone "saint of the day" app to be maybe based at least in part of WF material. I did make the mistake of giving out my alias to one of the staff here, and mentioned one of the most problematic cases I could think of in recent times regarding the editors here. But, no problems. John Carter (talk) 14:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Do you think the comments made by Hijiri88 here, here, and I think most importantly here qualify as violations of his topic bans as per the Arbitration case to be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Catflap08 and Hijiri88 or not? Speaking strictly for myself, I have never been even remotely convinced he has ever made much if any effort to understand policies and guidelines, and certainly has rarely if ever given much indication that he understands how they might apply to him. Certainly, Hijiri88 requesting Sturmgewehr88 to file an AE request because Hijiri wasn'ty sure he could himself, as per here,. does not inspire one with confidence. Also, as per the Arb page somewhere, Sturmgewehr88 states rather directly that he had no idea where I got the idea individual editors here are responsible for their own actions, which certainly does nothing to indicate to me that Sturmgewehr88's grasp of policy and guidelines is any better than Hijiri88's. Between Sturmgewehr88 and Curly Turkey and Hijiri88, as more than one editor indicated in the AtbCom case request section, there seems to exist an extremely close relationship, which often seems to be to me, at least in relation to policies and guidelines, the blind leading the blind, as only Curly Turkey of the three has ever even remotely shown to me any particular grasp of policies or conduct guidelines. I am not myself necessarily sure that AE would necessarily be the best way to go with this matter, although I might be wrong of course, but I do think that it would very much be in Hijiri8's own best interests if someone were to make it plain to him exactly how far his topic ban extends, and what he is and is not permitted to do under it. My own impression right now is that any hope he might have of having the topic ban lifted after one year is already pretty much gone, but it might be reasonable to specifically indicate to him that the lifting of the ban is contingent on his engaging in acceptable behavior regarding that matter, something I am not sure I have seen from him yet. John Carter (talk) 15:09, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Personally, I have no reservations about forgetting about him whatsoever. I would be more than happy to do so. However, as someone who has, by my own clear declaration, been receiving e-mails regarding the conduct of that editor for over a year now, e-mails as they come in serve as a form of reminder, whether I want them to or not. If the individual(s) sending the e-mails were to stop sending them, I personally wouldn't have any reservations about forgetting the name for all time. But I am less than convinced that some of those e-mails from others will stop, or whether they necessarily should be stopped, although, I hope to God, e-mails from Hijiri88 such as the one I mentioned at ANI stop. John Carter (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
such as the one I mentioned at ANI The implication here -- that the email JC mentioned was different from the one I disclosed in full -- is completely untrue. I have only ever sent JC one email, and it was that one. "e-mails from Hijiri88" "stopped" six months ago. Hijiri 88 (やや) 02:40, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
@John Carter: I'll add my ¢2 since you had a tangent about me without pinging me. Where you talk about editors' responsibility for their own actions, you completely misrepresented that argument. I was explaining WP:NPOV to you, and your response quite clearly shows that either you completely reject that policy or are totally ignorant of it. "Editors aren't responsible for how readers interpret articles", complete bollocks! And actually, the bond between Hijiri, CurlyTurkey, myself, and a few others mind you, is our opposition to a small group of editors consisting of you, AlbinoFerret, Catflap, CurtisNaito, and TH1980. There is no less collusion between you than there is between us. At least we can say that we've improved articles more than adding megabytes to the noticeboards. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 02:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

None of those edits are about "Japanese culture", and two out of three of them don't mention anything even remotely related to Japan -- the third was a response to a request from another user to translate something for him off-wiki. John Carter is here continuing his year-long pattern of following me around and trying to wikilawyer me into a block. Also, anyone who wants to block me based on John Carter's dubious reports of me violating a TBAN he clearly either doesn't understand or is deliberately misrepresenting should read this first.

It's also worth pointing out that John Carter just admitted to (inadvertently) engaging in meatpuppetry in order to continue his harassment of me.

I really would like to just forget about this whole incident, but ... I don't know ... if this disruption continues I guess I'll just have to draft another ANI thread.

Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

@Mjroots: Sorry, I just noticed this. Thank you for carefully analyzing my edits before blocking me for TBAN violations. I am not sure what the "YHM notification" refers to -- if you want clarification that I could provide I'm sure I would be happy to, as I have not done anything that would qualify as an IBAN or TBAN violation in a very long time. Hijiri 88 (やや) 02:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Hijiri, please keep a distance from the Japanese thing. John, bringing up an editor with whom you have a problem in the way you described which then leads to someone posting, that's unwise, in my opinion. Mjroots, remember the good old days when we were innocent editors writing up wind mills and lighthouses? Drmies (talk) 03:45, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

@Drmies: Ah yes, those were the days. I suggest that all parties disengage. The way things are going, we are either going to end up a ANI discussing a CBAN, or there'll be an Arbcom case. Neither of which are likely to end happily. Mjroots (talk) 05:26, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

You are a disgusting human being[edit]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Fully locking the Iran article is absolutely against the spirit of Wikipedia and its foundation pillars. Who do you think you are as well? Taking to the talk page and waving around a ban hammer like you are some sort of Hero. Let me put it this way, you have not been to University and clearly lack an education so why are you attempting to wield around power like the mad hungry rat you are. Unlock the article and let Wikipedia be a reflection of the stupidity that you have no right to put yourself above. You, sir are an idiot like the rest of the geek scum on here who think they can tell a Doctor what to do on an article about Medicine. So an all mighty f you to you. Thank you! (talk) 21:48, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

@ Thank you for that message. Every decent Admin gets a message like that. It shows that they are doing the job properly. Now, if you have something constructive to add to the Iran article, the instructions are clearly posted on the talk page as to what to do. Mjroots (talk) 04:54, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
@ If you want to find out more about Wikipedia, the first stage is to register so we can offer you friendly advice on your talk page. The first piece would be: while new, steer away from the top level articles until you have built up some experience on more local articles. Go for stubs or start class articles like Black rat. The second is to post your opinion to the articles talk page- and establish Wikipedia:Consensus, and let a more experienced editor do the final post for you. Its simple really cooperate rather than irritate the hell out of everyone. When you have registered drop a line here to say so- and we will help you find articles where your contribution will be welcome .--ClemRutter (talk) 07:55, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:Country data Kingdom of Hanover[edit]

Is there a reason for full protection instead of template protection, which is used on similar templates? Peter James (talk) 09:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@Peter James: yes. The reason was that I made a mistake. Now corrected. Mjroots (talk) 09:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Aircraft occurrence template tweak[edit]

Hello, there seems to be agreement on a small tweak of the 'Infobox aircraft occurrence' template (i.e. swapping the items 'Fatalities' and 'Injuries (non-fatal)', to make the order more logical) – see discussion. Would you mind sorting it out? I would do it myself, but the template is locked. Thanks. --Deeday-UK (talk) 20:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

I've made the changes in my sandbox, if you want to review them and copy/paste from there. --Deeday-UK (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
@Deeday-UK: I agree that there is consensus for such change as you suggest. However, I do not feel confident enough to make the suggested changes. Maybe it is worth asking at WP:AN for assistance from a more confident admin or template editor. Mjroots (talk) 18:46, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]


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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Mjroots.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Your AN/I complaint[edit]

Mj, are you still thinking it would be good to ban me from moving articles for some reason? Or shouldn't you just politely withdraw your complaint and move on? Dicklyon (talk) 20:05, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: I'm not minded to withdraw the complaint. Still seeing evidence of WP:IDHT behaviour from you. The AN/I thread really needs to be closed by an uninvolved admin, as it's a fairly close balance of opinions there. Mjroots (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


Earlier discussions are archived here

balloon crash[edit]

pilot had taken drugs and weather was not clear, may be time to name the pilot if he was at fault Bachcell (talk) 22:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

@Bachcell: Have replied at talk:2016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash, which is the better venue for this discussion. Mjroots (talk) 07:54, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

2016 Russian Defence Ministry Tupolev Tu-154 crash[edit]

Regarding this edit, the cited source says 93. Other sources I have looked at give 92 as the number of dead. The one that said 91 yesterday (Sky News) has been changed to 92.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:12, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

@Toddy1: Hmmm, ASN are pretty good at correcting errors so I'll let them know. Feel free to change the ref to any of the others that state 92. Mjroots (talk) 10:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Geotags, Grid refs etc,[edit]

Geo Links and Geograph[edit]

There are problems with your suggestion- which is the reason I haven't done it. There is a discussion forum Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates that is discussing the whole thing. The crux is that many people are unhappy if the link goes to one site, no matter how useful, and believes that the link should only go to GeoHack, where the reader can choose the map they want. There are a lot of unhappy people there. I have a problem with the way we are doing the conversion. It looks great, but if we edit either gridref or the location then the other doesn't change. In looking for a solution, I have been looking at the maths and a lot doesn't add up, this coupled with the volatility of forum, I have been hanging back. ClemRutter (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello there, and thanks for the contact. To me this looks good, but (and it is a big but) I'm afraid the issue appears more complex and contentious than I had first anticipated. I'm also not particularly "clued-up" about which system is good and which is bad, which seems to be part of an ongoing debate. All I know is that there should be a standard system, and these should be included as part of the text for settlements in the UK. Have you taken this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates? -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Infobox geotags- looks as it will take some time. Its on my list! ClemRutter (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Checking inline geotags[edit]

  • Now the accuracy of OStoWiki has been corrected (+/- 2m) all previous references may need tweaking.
  • The GeoHack tool now has a new interface and at the bottom of the GB section, under the dangerously inaccurate grid reference is a fantastic tool called Map of all Coordinates in article.
  • I tried it on the Loose stream, and because of it I I'm going to make another tweak to OStoWiki.

ClemRutter (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It is perfectly safe to use: the next tweak will be an enhancementClemRutter (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the reminder. Although I use OS maps within multimap to find things, multimap gives DMS output, and the numbering of the OS gridlines in the display tends to be hidden; so I tend to think I'm not ever going to use {{oscoor}}. However your intervention did cause me to go back and read the national grid system article, so as to understand the resolution of various lengths of OS coordinate. As I would not have done this without your intervention; thanks! --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Problem with gbmapping and oscoor templates[edit]

Hi, There seems to be a small inaccuracy in the translation of OSGB coords to WGS84. I've mentioned it here and here but haven't found anyone who might be able to fix it. Do you know where it would be best to raise it, please?--Cavrdg (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Grid refs[edit]

I did not like having to display grid refs without spaces. At long last I have got round to asking someone and doing this very simple edit. The php that it calls was already prepared to receive spaces. That means you could do this edit to other articles that call oscoor (which is now a redirect). But certainly, I suggest using {{gbmappingsmall}} in any future case. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I have now implemented oscoor elimination as a tool - see Template talk:oscoor. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


Moved from my user page
Yes indeed! A terrific place for browsing old memories and old haunts as well! Thanks for the reminder. Palmeira (talk) 17:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, the FAQ says CC-BY-SA-2.0 but I think that should still usable. We just have to maintain attribution. LeadSongDog come howl! 03:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


Earlier discussions are archived here

Medway watermills[edit]

Dear User:Mjroots. For what I have understand, you are a main contributor to the template page Template:Medway watermills diagram. As of now, this page is on overflow, and I am trying to empty the Category:Pages_where_template_include_size_is_exceeded. My opinion is as follows:

  1. your original page, written using {{BS-map}} could be renamed as Template:Medway watermills diagram/src.
  2. by the way, a new option, all could be added (beside upper, middle, lower), to reproduce what happens when <notinclude>1</notinclude> is set.
  3. thereafter, this page could be compiled to a new page Template:Medway watermills diagram, written using {{routemap}}. This gives a new template, with far less transclusions, and therefore more efficient when itself transcluded into some other page.
  4. And now, we can have side by side the all map and the upper+middle+lower one. And we can see that the junction middle--lower is correct, while the junction upper--middle is not optimal.

I have reproduced these steps at 2=User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway watermills diagram/src, 3=User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway watermills diagram, 4=User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway watermills diagram/test. Could you fix, in your template, the point .4. (see the test page), i.e. what is happening near Salman's Farm Mill ? And, moreover, what is your opinion about the whole process ? In fact, I really have no practice of these BS-map templates and I can't figure if people are really working directly with {{routemap}} or are using {{BS-map}} and then compiling. Best regards. Pldx1 (talk) 15:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

@Pldx1: - I understand that there is a size issue, but I'm not sure what you mean by "what is happening near Salman's Farm Mill". I see not problem with the diagram at all. It is displaying correctly. I created the diagram line by line using the BS-map system, if that helps you. It is complete and is unlikely to need to be altered, which is a good thing. There has been talk at the Trains WikiProject recently where an alternative system was proposed which gets around the size issue at a cost of needing a degree in computing to be able to edit the diagram. Is the size issue that bad that the diagrams need to be tampered with? Mjroots (talk) 15:36, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
@Mjroots:. Please open User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway watermills diagram/test and search for Yalding Mill. On the left, i.e. on the 'all' map, the next object after Yalding Mill is Wateringbury Stream. On the right, i.e. on the middle+lower map, we have Yalding Mill, a to mouth link, a to source link and then Wateringbury Stream. This behavior is what was expected. Let us now compare with the junction between upper and middle. Searching for Salman's Farm, we see that some objects, namely Ensfield Mill, Limit of navigation, Ramhurst Mill, Powder Mills, Town Lock and Town Mill, are on the left, but not on the right. This shouldn't occur, but I have no idea of how to proceed, since I know nothing about the Medway river. Concerning the other points, I will try to find the discussion your are mentioning, at Trains WikiProject. Have a good day. Pldx1 (talk) 15:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
@Pldx1: It would appear that you are using the new system. Looks like a few lines of code have got missed out somewhere to cause that error which you describe. I see it now I know exactly what to look for.
Can't help with the fix though. Don't understand that system at all. Mjroots (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
@Mjroots:. Oh no, I am not using the new system ! To tell it crudely, there are programmers, you, me, other people. They are using programming languages. Here, {{BS-map}} and the sequel. There are computers. They are using assembly language. Here {{routemap}}. Obviously some geeks are writing directly in assembly language, but most of the programmers are using a compiler, to translate from programming language into assembly language. Here, the translation is not too difficult: what should be done on the human side is described at Template:Routemap/doc#Transition_from_legacy_BS_row_template_to_Routemap_markup i.e. some substitutions that are easy to automatize. And all the rest is computer made when the subst are proceeded.

Again, Medway watermills[edit]

Hello. I have done some work about Template:Medway watermills diagram. I came here from a general concern about overflow. My interest for this specific template comes from its complexity that provides some clues about the problems to solve for compiling {{BS-map}} into {{routemap}}. May I recall that I do not consider replacing the former by the later, but organizing the coexistence of both systems, where people can write and test in their favorite language, and compile their sources at any moment of the process.

Once again, I know nothing about the Medway river, and it would be great that you control User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway/full written solution and see if my proposals for the upper, middle, and lower maps are sound. Best regards. Pldx1 (talk) 11:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

@Pldx1: If I understand it correctly, the full diagram is now on the left. Looking good although there is some random bolding of names that needs addressing. I'm sure this minor problem can be overcome. As I said earlier, this diagram is very unlikely to need to be amended, apart from the names of a few mills not identified by name which may possibly become identified in the future. I see no benefit in adding roads, railways etc. It would all become far too complicated and cluttered. This is a river and mills diagram, best to keep it that way. Mjroots (talk) 11:19, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
The diagram on the left comes from the actual template i.e. Template:Medway watermills diagram. The only changes were compilation (and bolding four locations near the jointures of the partial maps). On the contrary, the three maps on the right (each one below the other) are the new ones, obtained from assembling the parts and changing the visibility of block14 (at the junction of upper and middle part). This is to be compared with the previous User:Pldx1/Bs-map/Medway_watermills_diagram/test. What is your opinion about taking back block 18 (Eldridge Lock etc) in the middle part ? Pldx1 (talk) 12:26, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "taking back block 18". The only problem I can see with the right hand diagrams is that the continuation arrow on the top diagram is the wrong colour. Mjroots (talk) 13:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

List of windmills in Ille-et-Vilaine[edit]


I did a correction on this list and I'm curious: why is there names in bold or in italic on List of windmills in Ille-et-Vilaine?

Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 17:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: Bold text denotes mill is standing, italics denotes remains only. Mjroots (talk) 17:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick answer. I added a note on the table to be more explicit (and if I find time, I'll probably translate this list on the French Wikipédia). Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 17:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
@VIGNERON: Thanks. There are other French windmill lists, all linked from the List of windmills in France. I gave each département a separate list once it reached 20 windmills. Mjroots (talk) 17:19, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


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Nicholas Winton[edit]

Thanks for trying. Great to see such important real world news taking centre stage yet again. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. I was wondering if you'd had any response at wp:cz about the class of the Order of the White Lion awarded to Winton? Although I have more or less given up on the ITN nomination, I'm still intrigued. The report at PrageuPost suggests that both awards were made at the same class, but does not explicitly. I'v also scoured all of the top Google hits in Czech (with the help of Google translate!) but have drawn a blank. As User talk:Fuebaey has pointed out, we don't to seem to have any reliable sources yet for the class. One imagines that there would be a Czech Government website somewhere that would put this matter beyond doubt. Many thanks anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:00, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh well, at least we found out it was a Class 1, the same as Churchill's. So some satisfaction. Now the ITN nomination has timed out and dropped off the queue, of course, so any difference in consensus makes no difference, I guess. Hope you are well. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Peter Cazalet[edit]

Nice article there. Might be worth trying to find a DYK? from it - maybe the fact about him teaching Elizabeth Taylor to ride possibly? Can you check something from his military career? Article says he was potentially recommended for a Military Medal, but I would imagine by that point Cazalet was already an office and would have been line for a Military Cross - could you have a look at your source to check it? --Bcp67 (talk) 15:07, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Source is online and states Military Medal. As for DYK, that one would work, as would Albert Roux being his personal chef. Mjroots (talk) 18:02, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
OK I can see what's happened with the source there, having read the online article from The Guards Magazine now - the recommendation of the MM refers to a different soldier, a Guardsman - eligible for the Military Medal. Cazalet was the soldier's CO - "Two days later at a laager on a German farm, Gdsm Cumbley’s squadron commander, Peter Cazalet, called him in and told him he would be recommended for an award, but despite a letter of recommendation to Lt Col Windsor Lewis, he was to be disappointed; there was no Military Medal". I'm going to remove the mention from the article. Agree about Albert Roux too, I might nominate this for DYK with a couple of Alt hooks. --Bcp67 (talk) 18:40, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
@Bcp67: - no problem, thanks. If you nominate for DYK you won't need to do a QPQ. Mjroots (talk) 19:27, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I think they've changed the rules lately and anyone nominating has to do a QPQ, it's no problem as I've done a few DYK reviews here and there. --Bcp67 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I've done about as much as I think his cricket career warrants. I'm not sure I believe the story about him turning down the captaincy of Kent for his horse-racing interests: Percy Chapman, as an ex-England captain, was pretty well-ensconced in the job for as long as he wanted it, and Bryan Valentine, a far better cricketer than Cazalet, played fairly regularly and acted as Chapman's deputy for the times whenever the great man's conviviality got in the way of his ability to do the job, which happened more and more across the 1930s. Does the local reference give a date when this captaincy offer took place? Johnlp (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I think that's probably wise. It may well be that he was encouraged to make the couple of appearances for Kent in the 1932 season, as they probably remembered his 150 for them in 1928; but it didn't really work out. I'm surprised that he didn't play for Oxford at all after he was dropped in 1928, not even in the trial match for 1929: could it be that he left the university after two years and didn't finish his degree? Over to you to delve some more if you wish. Johnlp (talk) 10:36, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


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Nomination of October 2013 United Kingdom storm for deletion[edit]

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St Jude storm[edit]

Suggest you take a look at St Jude storm.Martin451 22:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Typhoon Haiyan[edit]

If/when they get enough information, we'll consider splitting them then. But for now, it's rather silly to have such stubby sections. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Otham Abbey[edit]

I'd be inclined to link it only to List of monastic houses in England (which has already been done); however, if I ever get round to writing an article about St Laurence's Chapel, Otteham Court, I will link that to List of former places of worship in Wealden and Grade II* listed buildings in East Sussex and provide a backlink to Otham Abbey in both cases. (I did come across some useful material on the chapel a while ago, possibly in one of the Sussex Archaeological Collections; it's probably in one of my folders somewhere.) Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Stanmer Church[edit]

Hi Mj. I would not object to it being mentioned briefly (not necessarily under a separate header – just within the Histroy section, as it is now, would suffice), but only if a good reliable source can be found. Until such a source can be found, I would be inclined to move the sentence in question to the Talk page with a note to that effect. (I remember watching that episode again recently and thinking "Ah, that looks familiar" – the last time I saw it was before I'd been to Stanmer Park!) Must dash now – end of lunch break! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Iran article[edit]

Hello, Just as a proposal: If you would agree, can I replace current references with new ones (in particular #1,#2,#3 in conclusion section of talk page that have been confirmed by you) ? Since these new references confirms that Iran and Persia are synonymous and seems to be more clear and more prestigious than current references. I'll do this, Iff you are agreed, otherwise I do nothing. Regards Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

@Aidepikiwnirotide: Yes, go ahead and edit, but bear in mind my remarks at the talk page re unlocking the article. Mjroots (talk) 17:18, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 17:21, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Dover Strait coastal guns, 1940–1944[edit]

Did some cleaning up on the article and changed the title, thought you'd like to know. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 12:17, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

@Keith-264: I already did! Face-smile.svg Mjroots (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I couldn't fill in the missing cites, sadly. Face-sad.svg Regards Keith-264 (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


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Class 377 at Eastbourne[edit]

Are you still after a reliable source for the fire damaged 377 at Eastbourne, or has that been put to bed? The joy of all things (talk) 18:00, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

@The joy of all things: Yes, a RS is still needed. If you can do this, please edit the article and add the incident. Mjroots (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Done. It's scant on information (i.e. it mentions damage to one coach, but doesn't say which coach), but it does say which unit it is (377442). Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 18:47, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


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River Len[edit]

Mike I feel quite pleased with myself! I had found the relatively new Geobox|rivers at River Trent and investigated. You will now see the result at this article (I took an easy one first!). There may well be other information - I couldn't work out the coordinates, and in any case a river covers more than one; couldn't find the exact length; and dunno if there is anywhere to be able to get flow rates etc. You may well be able to add more tributaries - I took the ones you had alraedy mentioned under the mills. None of the blanks come out until you give some information. I had also discovered the exact location of the source - a historical document on the Medway; I'm sure you also know more about its course, although perhaps that isn't too important. Peter Peter Shearan (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Mill symbols[edit]

As you see I have put two new symbols into your sandbox article. Just a quick fix. Using mills in this way is quite an extension. Come September we need to define what symbols we need- mills with weirs for example, millponds goits. I have been visiting the Dark Peak and realise how much more important water engineering was in the 1780s and the growth of the Cotton Industry. Still I am taking a break now. ClemRutter (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I have been talking with guys at WP:RIVERS and trying to work out what icon system to recommend. In a nutshell, the cyan worms are out, rivers are dark blue unless you need to differentiate- then non-navigable are light blue and navigable are darkblue. but I am still working on it. You have source at the top. River Len, Kent seems to be correct. See also Manchester Ship Canal for an upside down example. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Route diagrams gives the discussion.--ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


fr:Fichier:LeteaMill.jpg is heel mooi! --ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Medway diagram[edit]

This takes a little thought. I like diagrams- very useful for showing mill locations- but there is a convention on canals that navigable should be darkblue and non navigable light blue. The tails as steams meet the river seem clunky. I have been concerned about the representation of reservoirs for some time- is a reservoir navigable or not- how do you show the dam bypass channel. In the simple case: a truncated salami would do- but they often are constructed at the confluence of several rivers. A lot of icons need some thought- and that will take a little time- I will put it on the list. (Some mills are on the wrong bank but that is minor). --ClemRutter (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I have put in far too many hours playing with the diagram on my talk page. Please look over- and see if there is anything to add- you will need to proof read the position of the mills relative to the new locks, and the addition of the Beult and the two mouths of the Teise. I have added some new icons to Template:Waterways legend particularly putting curved dams on reservoirs. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

To be positive: it is getting there. A few of your changes I don"t like. A river is a hydrographical item, as well as cultural one. The first uncollapsed diagram needs to stand in its own right, and give the reader basic infomation about its course. The collapsed bits need to show the twidddly bits, that the Teise at Yalding has bifurcated, and where mills were situated. When the course is a navigation we need info on the locks. Background colour needs to show whether the river is tidal, a navigation, or non-navigable. The section names are taken from the NRA, and are used by the waterways community- I don't think Lower Mid Upper is really informative. The whole diagram (uncollapsed) needs to be complete and informative in itself. I think that we should do another round of rollbacks and improvement then wrap it in a template and ask the WP:RIVERS for comment on any points where policy decisions need to be made. I would like to use it as a model to be attached to their policy page. I then want to code up the River Etherow, Irk, Irwell, Medlock, Goyt can't you just smell the cotton. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, width is critical when using collapsable box- expand all the section to see it isn't broken by the change. Titles a lot better- I took one look and thought- I knew I was about to to do that-- but I can't remember having done it. These wretched dock icons look awful- I am going to redo them- I cant see why a narrow dock should be five times wider than the river. I am more concerned about the length if the diagram, then allowing the diagram to be included in Kent pages that make a mention to the Medway. Then into Infoboxes.I am uploading images along the commons:Portland Basin- Ashton Canal at the moment.--ClemRutter (talk) 11:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you know this one? Template:Medway Navigation--ClemRutter (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Well it is certainly ready to be wrapped in a template- so I have. We can do further editing there {{River Medway map}}. I did do one change as the Tidal estuary is downstream from Rochester.

True. There is a limit to the sort of ship you can drive under Rochester Bridge. I think the commissioner of HM Dockyard would agree with me. The London Stone is at Upnor, which is/was the upstream limit of the Port of London- but Rochester is miles from the Swale or Thames. This wrretched river never does things simply!--ClemRutter (talk) 08:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


I have been putting a bit of input into Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers‎; that may interest you. Later tonight I will be posting some of the changes. --ClemRutter (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:River Waveney map[edit]

Hi. I notice you have updated the River Waveney map, but was a little surprised to see that it now runs from south to north. One of the problems of the transposition is that several of the adjoining rivers are now shown on the wrong side. Oulton Broad should be on the other side, as should the River Yare, and the Haddiscoe cut is no longer clearly labelled. I was going to try to sort it out but am a bit short of time at the moment. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I am back from holiday now, and have moved Oulton Broad, Haddiscoe Cut and the River Bure back to where they should be, corrected the direction of the locks, and produced a windmill symbol for the windmills. However, I have no sources for which side of the river the windmills should be on, and as the river and Haddiscoe Cut have now been transposed, wondered if you could just check them. Thanks. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Givors canal[edit]

Hi, given your interest in France and transport and the fact that it's been sitting weeks, I wondered if you'd care to review this one for GA? If you;re not feeling very well I understand though, sorry to hear about that. Your talk page could do with archiving though its 159 kb! Hope you had a good Christmas!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


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Bristol Packet (1801 ship)[edit]

Thanks for your edits & comment about Bristol Packet (1801 ship) I have added a (historic England) ref for the length, but I can't find where I got the figure for the width.— Rod talk 08:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

EIC ships[edit]

Hi Mjroots, I am aware of the site you mentioned, but there is nothing in it that isn't in either Hackman's (2001) book on the EIC ships, or in the National Archives, which provides part of the base for both the website and Hackman. Furthermore, I have often found them incomplete, or even wrong, which compromises info based on them. As for the EIC flags, I use them generally, but there was a point in the early 19th century when the EIC switched to the regular British ensign. At one point I had the year, but I've mislaid the reference. I now generally use 1814 as the cut-off for switching because that was the year the EIC lost its monopoly on the east of Cape of Good Hope trade. This gives rise to an additional issue: a vessel may be sailing east of the Cape of Good Hope, but without being a vessel belonging to the EIC. It might be under contract (an "extra ship", even for as many as six voyages), or after 1814, licensed, or under a special exemption. Thus convict transports to Australia might backhaul for the EIC, or whalers go into the South Pacific, or in one case, be carrying missionaries to the South Pacific, and although in the first and third of these categories, their logbooks may be in the National Archives in the EIC section, they were not EIC ships. (And sometimes EIC ships became licensed ships.) So often what flag to feature is a bit of a judgement call based on my best guess as to what was going on at the time. I would welcome any info that you might have on when the changeover in flags occurred, or anything that in particular cases would provide more accurate info. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 20:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: IMHO, contemporary sources are best. Do you have access to The Times online? That's the sort of thing they would have covered. Mjroots (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Mjroots, Sorry, am not following you. As far as the website you recommended is concerned, it is using the same sources I use, except that I update the info with other info that is contemporary to the period, or contemporary in the sense of recent, especially when it is reflects some historian's detailed research. Both contemporaries have their weaknesses; I tend to go with the preponderance of the evidence. If you mean with respect to the flag issue, I don't have access to The Times. There may have been an announcement, but I am not aware of it. One source I have started to think about is paintings. A painter painting an EIC ship in 1820, for instance, will paint the then relevant flag. That may solve the switch-over date, but it still doesn't solve the problem of what flag a non-EIC ship is flying. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
@Acad Ronin: - I meant that The Times would likely have covered the EIC losing its monopoly. I get my access to the online archive through my library's website. As you appear to be in the United States, it is a possibility that you could get access that way. Otherwise, it is a question of paying for access directly through The Times. Mjroots (talk) 21:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Re HMS Pearl (1762)[edit]

Hi Mjroots, thought you might be able to give me some advice as an admin who has an interest in the subject matter. I am working on HMS Pearl (1762) in my user space. I am not quite ready to move the article yet but the move will be complicated by a redirect which is currently occupying the title page. I could simply cut and paste the finished article over the redirect but I assume this will result in loss of the edit history (whether that matters or not, I don't know) or I could request the current page is deleted and then move my article to the user space. Is there any guidance on this or do you have an opinion on what's best? As I said, it is still a work in progress so doesn't need moving yet but would like to know in advance. Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 09:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@Ykraps: As you're the only editor who has edited the proto-article all you need to do is edit the redirect by cutting and pasting the proto-article in. Use an edit summary of "convert to article" or similar. Mjroots (talk) 09:17, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Okay, thanks--Ykraps (talk) 09:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@Ykraps: Should the situation change, ping me when you are ready to move the proto-article and I'll G6 the redirect for you. Mjroots (talk) 09:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
By which you mean, if others edit the proto-article? Incidentally, have I posted this at the right place? I've just noticed at the top of the page where it says, "If your post is an Admin-related matter..."--Ykraps (talk) 10:03, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Ykraps - yes, and don't worry about it. This is not an admin matter as such, but the post could have gone in the Ships section. I'm almost finished with a major project then this talk page will be sorted out and archived. Mjroots (talk) 10:14, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Ah okay, thanks. I'm not sure what is and isn't an admin thing as I don't seem to get involved with too many. I consider that a good thing. Regards--Ykraps (talk) 10:24, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


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Re: 2010 F1 season/Hamilton[edit]

Don't fret man, I'm sure we've all made errors like that at some point during our Wiki lives. We learn and learn every day. :) Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 15:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I know, but I was just trying to trim some of the page size by removing the refnames of references that did not have another reference point in the article, as in the only mentioning of the reference. Bad idea in hindsight, but just trying to trim every little unnecessary byte off the page. Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 17:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Already responded there! Cs-wolves(talk) 18:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I also believe the ref name tags give unnecessary weight to the article.  Kitchen Roll  (Exchange words) 18:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Lewis Hamilton[edit]

It'll probably help that the 115.134.x.x range is out of the way; though I'm sure that's not the only IP range in Malaysia! Black Kite (t) (c) 09:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Flags for F1 race[edit]

You undid my edit on the 2010 European Grand Prix because I changed the flag to European one from Spanish one. I think it is better to put the European one, because it is officially named the European Grand Prix. Of course, there is a Spanish Grand Prix, but all other races have their respective flags, bar this one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, seen it. Also, thank you for putting my edit as a good faith edit, and not vandalism - because I just edited it thinking that the European flag was the correct one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you are quite correct about everyone learning about Wiki (but I guess everyone will be learning about it until they reitre, and the site does need admins :P). And, I am also trying to fight vandalism, so it would have been quite ironic if I were accused of it! M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject Water Sports[edit]

Hi Mjroots

I thought you might be interested in joining this new project Wikipedia:WikiProject Water sports/RNLI task force, as you have contributed to articles concerning Lifeboats and shipping  stavros1  ♣ 

2011 Australian Grand Prix[edit]

Please do not include blank pre-set sections. A wikipedia article should be ready to be read with whatever information is current at any point in its life. If you are going to 'set up' articles for future expansion, use hides to remove the blank headings from view of those who step into the article for a look prior to its expansion. Just a touch of professional presentation. --Falcadore (talk) 07:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

2013 Formula One season[edit]

Hi, Mj,

I've come to you before with a couple of requests, and I'm hoping you can help me out with another one. A few recent developments have lead regular contributors over at WP:F1 to belive that it is time to create a page for the 2013 Formula One season. However, the page has been pre-emptively created half a dozen times in the past, and admins have prevented the page from being created until it is unlocked; we are 18 months away from the start of the 2013 season, and by comparison, the 2012 page was created almost three years in advance. I am hoping you will be able to open up the ability to create the 2013 page, or at least direct me to someone who can if you do not have that happy power, please. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I've changed the salting on the page from create=sysop to create=autoconfirmed, that should let you get to work on it, I think. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 07:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
That's fine, Bushranger. Not too soon to create the article now, considering there are drivers with contracts to race in 2013. Mjroots (talk) 07:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Folkestone Racecourse[edit]

Thanks for the message. I'd say its "closing" rather than "closed". The racecourse's own website shows that they still have fixtures left in 2012 and the news story on the Racing Post says it will close at the end of 2012, so I'd say for the moment it should still be marked as an active racecourse until it finally shuts it doors. What do you think?--Bcp67 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: My editing[edit]

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Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates[edit]

I undid your nomination as the "Pioneer Cabin Tree" is already nominated and being discussed here. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 17:46, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Your advice being followed[edit]

Mjroots, Would you mind checking this [1], who quickly turned into this[2].

According to what he stated above, Jezebel's Ponyo will not be surprised. The farm is turning into a colony.

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 05:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@BlueIndigo: Are you saying that PirateGreen is another sock of Aubmn? Mjroots (talk) 06:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Exactly. I knew it was coming & was not surprised when I saw first revert by *saviourblue*, who then turned into a *green pirate*.
--Blue Indigo (talk) 06:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC).
@BlueIndigo: OK, file a sockpuppet report at WP:SPI with Aubmn as the puppetmaster. Add in all names that you suspect are socks. Mjroots (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Aidepikiwnirotide and IP aspersions[edit]

I'm fairly sure you'll just have ignored Aidepikiwnirotide's recent thinly-veiled accusations that either myself of Vormeph have been using IPs to influence yourself or Moxy. Just in case, it seems likely that both IPs (as well as HeroChaos) are Olowe2011, who had a ragequit moment and was renamed 1xdd0ufhgnlsoprfgd. Not that explains why he would be raging against you, given how he probably feels about me, but I suppose he's not overly happy with WP authorities at the moment.

Normally I'd keep quiet about a New Start, but HeroChaos is not going to be long for WP if his talkpage is anything to go by. Bromley86 (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Bromley86 Just please don't change/remove my opinions on talk page. Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 22:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Mjroots, users Bromley86 and Vormeph several times changed/removed my comments on talk page and voted from my side. I would appreciate if you would prevent such behaviours. Thanks. Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I too would welcome some input. My initial edit may have been incorrect, as I did blank his discussion in a proposal section; I should have instead handled it as you did when he ignored a request not to discuss in the earlier proposal. However, Vormeph has done noting wrong re. Aidepikiwnirotide's comments, as he's just moved them to a Comments section below the proposal vote.
Both of us included Aidepikiwnirotide as an Oppose vote. That seems to accurately state his position on the subject. No problem if he wants to abstain though.
I'll have one more attempt at tidying it up, following Vormeph's inclusion of a Comments section. Hopefully Aidepikiwnirotide will not continue to disrupt. Bromley86 (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


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7&6=thirteen, thanks but I can't eat it. Allergic to chocolate you see. Maybe swap it for a nice cream cake? Mjroots (talk) 17:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Mjroots, you can notify 7&6=thirteen but you need to be careful to explicitly number the parameter, like this - {{reply to|1=7&6=thirteen}}@7&6=thirteen: --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, but I think he's probably one of my TPS's anyway. Mjroots (talk) 05:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Another year[edit]

What an intrepid shipwreck editor!! May you deserve some amazing reward for having stuck it out for so long now - have a good new year!!! JarrahTree 10:41, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Mjroots (talk) 12:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)