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Regarding your post on the talk page, I think the lead is still short in proportion to the length of the rest of the article, but it may merit a GA nomination in the near future. [[User:KimChee|KimChee]] ([[User talk:KimChee|talk]]) 18:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding your post on the talk page, I think the lead is still short in proportion to the length of the rest of the article, but it may merit a GA nomination in the near future. [[User:KimChee|KimChee]] ([[User talk:KimChee|talk]]) 18:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


==Copying==
Copying text and then changing a few words is not sufficient.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010_City_of_Bell_salary_controversy&diff=397675474&oldid=397485279] You need to write it in your own words. See [[WP:PLAGIARISM]]. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<font color="#595454">Will Beback</font>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<font color="#C0C0C0">talk</font>]]&nbsp; </b> 21:53, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
:In reviewing the articles side by side, I feel I made significant changes @ 3:30AM ;-) (when the newsletter comes in each morning) Reviewing in the light of day, I see that a few more changes could have been made, but dear Will, it seems apparent to me that an honest attempt was made to rewrite so as not to be violating [[WP:PLAGIARISM]]. OTOH, I am running out of "my own words" after months of writing on this subject. Rather than deleting it, I think a few more changes would have made it more acceptable. I really do appreciate you, more than you know. More input would be sincerely appreciated. I hold you in great esteem. Namaste...[[User:DocOfSoc|DocOfSoc]] ([[User talk:DocOfSoc#top|talk]]) 22:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::If you start from the concept of making changes, then it's an uphill battle. Instead, try to start by writing your own original version of events. (It's a lot easier if you have two or more sources.) Then, where absolutely necessary, borrow or quote a few words at a time. There are many good tips in [[WP:PLAGIARISM]], I really do suggest you read it. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<font color="#595454">Will Beback</font>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<font color="#C0C0C0">talk</font>]]&nbsp; </b> 23:28, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I HAVE read it, several times, silly;-) xoxo [[User:DocOfSoc|DocOfSoc]] ([[User talk:DocOfSoc#top|talk]]) 23:50, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::::In all seriousness, I don't want to keep coming back about this. Please be extra-careful in the future. Editors have been blocked or banned for serial plagiarism. It really is a serious issue. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<font color="#595454">Will Beback</font>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<font color="#C0C0C0">talk</font>]]&nbsp; </b> 10:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Doc 2, this is really a serious issue. If you are running out of your own words to put in than maybe you need to walk away from the subjects all together for awhile. The community doesn't take lightly copying, ie; plagerism or copyright problems. You should never copy anything from any source to an article or anywhere else on this project. Read the sources, take notes if you have to but do '''not''' copy and paste it. If you have to, then do it on you own computer. Add a file to your computer and copy what you want to add to an article but haven't gotten it into your own words yet. This way you can work on using your own words without breaching policies here. There has been a lot lately about plagerism and copyright problems here at the project. Recently it got so bad that an arbitrator resigned his position also giving up everything else they were allowed to have and than retired from the site beause the heat go so bad. So please, it's really easy to make a file on your computer to work on something that you want to add to an article. Again, please do not ever copy anything to Wikipedia that you get from a source or that can be considered copyright or plagerism. It's never ends well and the pressure has to be enormous for the editor. The arbitrator I mentioned said it was an accident I believe but still the heat was on him. If you need to talk about this please email me since I'm about to leave my computer now. Please though listen to Will Beback and Franamax or anyone else that has your well being in mind. Your comments of sweetness, trust me on this, will not help if this ever gets elevated. I hope you understand, --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:Indigo">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 19:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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My first article?

Walter P. Temple [[2]] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DocOfSoc/Walter_P._Temple

You deserve this

When you first became an editor you had lots of obstacles to over come with being under constant attack, but you did it. You have come such a long way during your time here. You are a good editor who is also a great asset to the project. Keep up your good work. --CrohnieGalTalk 14:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I really mean it, you have come a long way now that you don't have to worry about constant attacks, well mostly not worry. Your editing and esp. your ability to locate sources is very impressive. When I saw this barnstar I thought of you. Keep up the good work.--CrohnieGalTalk 14:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What a nice surprise and compliment! Thank you for all your help in moving forward. I don't know that I could have made up for so much wasted time without your thoughtful guidance. Namaste...DocOfSoc (talk) 19:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, this time you did it yourself. You learned how to get reliable sources and got them. Well heck you've become one heck of an editor here and I thought it was time to acknowledge it. You are doing great, keep it up. --CrohnieGalTalk 21:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chinatowns

I am wondering if there are any racism issues going on?????

Reminder

The thing to remember about these trolls is that they don't get any positive feedback, ever, so they get a fix from annoying people instead. Any attempt to communicate with them only makes it harder for them to recognise themselves for that they are and do something about it. Follow Wikipedia:Deny recognition and remember to Revert, block, ignore. You can do this by adding the text {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions Chzz is taking a break from Wikipedia. -- Chzz ► 04:36, 27 July 2010 ...sort-of. For a combination of Wiki?edia-related and IRL reasons, I'm not quite editing at my normal capacity. I may or may not be around. I hope that 'normal service' will be resumed, at some point in the future. Chzz ► 12:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC) If you are looking for a recent-ish reply, it'll be in User talk:Chzz/Archive 26 OR 27

(talk page stalker) You might be interested in this.    Thorncrag  19:09, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bungalow Heaven

I know you meant well, but please don't just copy and paste entire articles from one page to another without noting what you've done in an edit summary. That content is the work of other editors; copying it without attribution violates our licensing policy. If you feel an article should be merged into another, there is a process for that. In this case, because Bungalow Heaven is on the historic register it has its own notability, so the content probably should not be merged. If you still think it should, there's a process for that, too.

On a related note, {{main}} is meant to direct readers to the main article mentioned in a small subsection of a larger article, not the other way around. It should be used in the "Bungalow Heaven" section of the Pasadena article, not at the top of the Bungalow Heaven article.

I've made the necessary corrections, so if you're happy with how it is now there's no need for you to do anything. I just wanted to explain this for future reference. Thanks - Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 16:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi There! First of all , thank you for your impressive service to and for our country, I salute you!
RE: Bungalow Heaven: Thank you for fixing my mistake. I had looked at the merging process and it looked like I needed an admin so was going to do that later. You beat me ;-) As an aside, I have lived within a few miles of Pasadena my entire life, somewhere in the vicinity of half a century, and had never heard of Bungalow Heaven. It looks like a stub and quacks like a stub... I digress :-D IMO it should be merged with Pasadena, with it's many Historical Landmarks.
If Pasadena had a separate stub for all its historical landmarks there would be a plethora of stubs! Anyway, It is a pleasure to "meet" you and I look forward to hearing your opinion on "merging". Thanks again! Namaste...DocOfSoc (talk) 21:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, a rare Los Angeles native! :) I live in Mt. Washington. Bungalow Heaven is one of my favorite parts of Pasadena (and just a stone's throw from the Gamble House). Great spot to walk around, if you're into architecture.
I agree the article could do with some expansion, but it does have references and a photo so it's not actually a stub. Just a short article. Even so, stubs are okay; as long as the subject is notable and there's some possibility for growth, there's no limit to the number we can have. The NRHP Wikiproject is working to expand coverage of everything on the National Register, which I suppose is why that article was created in the first place. It's short, but I think it has legs to stand on its own. I'll see if I can expand it a bit, though.
Nice to meet you! Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 16:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for such a quick response to this. Much appreciated. I was just talking with Errant after thanking him for doing a revert. He said a little birdy whispered in his ear...I got a great laugh. I don't have the dif on me but look at my contributions to find what I'm babbling about. It won't be hard to find.  :) Thanks again, about to leave the computer, hubby's birthday today. --CrohnieGalTalk 12:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"forsooth, there is no one I trust more." Where are ye when I need ye?"DocOfSoc (talk) 08:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your collective initiative in improving Andriza Mircovich. KimChee (talk) 18:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your post on the talk page, I think the lead is still short in proportion to the length of the rest of the article, but it may merit a GA nomination in the near future. KimChee (talk) 18:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]