User talk:Galendalia

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Unblock Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Galendalia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I fully understand my actions about being uncivil towards others and the attacks I have made towards people. My goal is to a) not to respond to editors the way I have been and b) not to let other editors get under my skin. My track record shows outside of conversations, that I am here to build an encyclopedia and have made very many constructive edits in two months time and had rollback rights (removed after previous ANI). I am also willing to participate in discussions by being level headed and not reacting to the comments posted but to work towards a solution. My ANIs have been about the way I converse with others of which is a major fault of mine and I accept the responsibility and apologize for those words. Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 10:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Please bear with me. I am composing this carefully. It may be a few minutes. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 01:42, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I cannot unblock you at this time. I am in full agreement with with Tony's assessment below. In one of the ANI's, there was a recommendation that you not attempt to return for a year or two. Generally, one can try after six months of constructive editing on other projects. I do not recommend attempting to return before December 10, 2020.

• Review and critique: I cannot for the life of me believe that three days after writing THIS, you are now able to accept criticism and feedback.
• Seriously? ... but none of you admins ever see that. You are all seeking to silence me ...? Again, I can not see you changing your temperament so quickly.
• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive408#User:LuK3 reported by User:Galendalia (Result: no violation) You reported LuK3, a recent changes patroller for reverting vandalism? We all make mistakes, I don't see where this one was addressed. But the biggest problem has been in your responses.
• At the very least, once you have been unblocked, you will need to agree to stay away from other user's user pages. And why in the world would you do this?
• I won't go in-depth into the general competence issues brought up in this thread. Opening a SPI that was deleted? Opening multiple RfC's when people disagree with you? I think you will need to agree to stay away from WP:DRN once you are unblocked. Gah. You promised to stay in your own lane on May 27th. You need to seriously contemplate how you have proceeded here-to-fore.
• You will need to continue to not host at the TeaHouse.
• I have not assessed your WP:CVU work. That is an area where it is very easy to make mistakes, It is vital that one respond with quiet dignity, humility, and grace when the inevitable error is brought to one's attention. We all make mistakes.

Summary. Though well intentioned, you are overly intense and aggressive, and unable to accept constructive criticism. You are potentially a good user, but you need to grow, and that will take time. It is recommended that, before requesting unblocking, you edit constructively on other projects for at least six months. At least a year would be better.

 --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 03:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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• I guess it’s worth mentioning that I wrote WP:NOTCOMPATIBLE a few nights ago after dealing with all of the above to discuss our approach to these situations. If I had written it sooner that would have been the block rationale, but I still think it’s a fit. What we have in this situation is someone who fundamentally doesn’t get how Wikipedia operates. Their interactions with others as well as general competence issues (which they have not addressed satisfactorily either here or above, despite their claims) make them have a personality that just isn’t suited for a collaborative project. Feedback is met with angry attacks, and when they try to address the substance of the issue, they don’t actually address the concerns at all or show a fundamental misunderstanding of policy (especially on the COI issue.)
  The issue here is that we have an editor who is here in good faith to build the encyclopedia, but who for several reasons just isn’t a fit for what we expect from Wikipedians in terms of behaviour. Good faith isn’t enough to override these concerns: we need evidence that you’ve somehow changed your approach to how you’d interact with others fundamentally in the last few days. Everything you’ve done since that block has indicated you haven’t. In the light of everything else you’ve written, this unblock request looks like lipservice: saying the right things without sincerity. Actions speak louder than the words of an appeal, and I see no reason right now to think you’ve changed the way you’ll act on this project since I’ve blocked you. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
• ANI's? --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 01:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
• Permalinks to ANI's. Special:permalink/961655728#Galendalia, again and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1038#Editor removing blocked users' userboxen to tidy a project list. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 02:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Thank you for the feedback. I guess it would be safe to say you have not previously seen my comments in another thread on my talk page, so I will address your concerns here:

*I have not touched DRN since then except to remove my name as a volunteer and the same with the Teahouse.

*For the archiving as I explained I was not paying attention and typed yes to add it with the Welcome template. This was not even addressed until Tony listed it above. I have apologized for it and stated I need to pay attention to it. This was a new script I found on Wikipedia and I put “yes” into the “create auto archive” box.

*The G11 - As I stated when pages are pulled up I automatically send CSD especially if there is email and such involved. There was something I read that stated along the lines not calling attention to it but let the admins know so yes I sent a CSD based on that criteria to get an admins attention in the fastest but most discrete way possible. What I was upset with was another user paraphrasing everything that was just told to me and then ending it with “you are on very thin ice.” To my knowledge that person is not an admin which can be construed as a threat.

*COI issues - As I have stated the user had 1/2 of the template up so I finished it for them so it looked right because the template doesn’t say what the conflict is unless you add the pages which is what I’m allowed to do (again as stated). The previous ANI was about me removing user boxes of which I have not done since. The other COI didn’t have the box but just a statement which didn’t link to the articles themselves as they are a paid editor. Again, the policies state any user is allowed to do this. The problem I see here is that we have two different policies for the same thing.

*CVU work. I think out of the couple hundred (maybe a thousand or so) two have been reversed.

*I also understand why you are bringing up the previous ANI, everything was explained and I have not broken any of my promises from that ANI.

As I’ve already stated it is my interactions with people that I deserved this block and I have, explained above with this unblock request, what I will be doing to address this on my end. You stated I need to work on editing another project. I know of none others than the infamous Wikipedia. No one has addressed my concerns in all of this (as in Galendalia I see your point....”, however, they are quick to pass judgement on me. Yes some people have expressed clarification and proper guidance but others have never had an interaction with me about anything and they continue to add to the pile of stuff against me in ANI which is not aligned with the goals of the project. Right now while I wait I’ve had plenty of time to think which is how I came up with my resolve about approaching others in conversation.

Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 04:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

No I saw it. Please stop. You really need to stop debating with people. The essence of the unblock decline is in bold. Feel free to request another unblock if you think I erred in declining. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 09:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: - While I appreciate your response and decline, 1/2 of the block is because of me doing things against policy, being called incompetent, and many other things. I’m actually reading through all sorts of essays and policies now about blocking and reasons and trying to figure out why I was slapped with an indef for my first block when I see other users getting a lot less for the same things. I am not debating, I am pointing out the facts that once again are being dismissed. I have accepted the part of my words and attacks and have agreed to stop them. Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate}

See WP:NOTCOMPATIBLE, which describes this situation. Like I said, if I had written it before I blocked you, that’d be the block reason. On the competence points: you still have the G11 and COI points wrong, and policy does not say what you think it says there. You are simply not allowed to edit another user page except in exceptional circumstances. COI not being one. No one is ever forced to use that template as a declaration either. As to the G11, nothing in the relevant policy or the policy its based on remotely suggest using CSD as a way of requesting suppression, and suppression would have been declined anyway in this case as the individual appears to know enough about Wikipedia to be able to make the conscious choice of making their email public. That you don’t have the judgement to understand that is also a competence issue. You’re very likely to have your talk page access revoked soon if you keep posting essays and pinging people, which also goes to my point about overall compatibility. This block is not about good faith or learning, it’s about the issues you have with this project and the disruption that appears sure to resume if you were unblocked because of the compatibility issues. TonyBallioni (talk) 10:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: - I already apologized for the mistake on the CSD. As far as the COI WP:COI states a couple of times in various subsections in part “Note that other editors may add this template for you.” It is stated right there on the page. How can you block someone based on an essay and not a policy? This essay is your POV and I think to use that essay (or any essay) and suppressing me on my talk page is egregious to say the least. You are also continuing down the path of insulting me and making personal attacks by repeatedly stating I’m “incompetent.” I have asked you before to stop with that comment and you have failed to cease calling me incompetent. The above are not essays. They are answers to the questions/statements that were made by the declining administrator. I have also asked questions which have not been answered and I understand there are a lot of things going on in Wikipedia Land so I wait on a response. I also find it “weirdly funny” that when I post something as above for my unblock request or immediately above on my response, you chime right in before any other admin can do anything and you keep saying my talk page will be restricted from me editing it. I’m seeing this as harassment from you, an administrator none the less. Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 11:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Archiving

A bit of topic from what's going on above, but shouldn't the archiving be reduced to something like 1 time per month? Numerous discussions are being necessarily archived. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 11:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Berrely: I haven’t changed it. It was set that way to keep the page clean. I’m going to change it in a moment. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Galendalia Talk to me ^{CVU Graduate} 11:50, 11 June 2020 (UTC)