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Julia, please, remember, try to avoid "you" and "your". It's not necessary to directly confront editors on the talkpage. Let that be my job, and you can focus on the article. If you think that I am not properly addressing disruption, you can bring it up on my talkpage if I haven't gotten to it in a timely manner. So please, try harder to "stick to the article"? Thanks, [[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 18:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Julia, please, remember, try to avoid "you" and "your". It's not necessary to directly confront editors on the talkpage. Let that be my job, and you can focus on the article. If you think that I am not properly addressing disruption, you can bring it up on my talkpage if I haven't gotten to it in a timely manner. So please, try harder to "stick to the article"? Thanks, [[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 18:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
: Erm, I think you need to get caught up a bit. Check ChrisO's talkpage. And then, please, remove anything from [[Talk:Muhammad al-Durah]] which is about editors, as opposed to being about the article. Remember, "you" and "your". :) Thanks, --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 03:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
: Erm, I think you need to get caught up a bit. Check ChrisO's talkpage. And then, please, remove anything from [[Talk:Muhammad al-Durah]] which is about editors, as opposed to being about the article. Remember, "you" and "your". :) Thanks, --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 03:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

==Editing restriction==
{{user|Julia1987}}, as you know, there are [[Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah#Conditions for editing|conditions for editing]] at [[Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah]], an article where you have been participating to exclusion of all else, since your account was created on May 22. One of the conditions is "no reverts". On June 14 at 07:10, ChrisO added some information that was well-sourced.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhammad_al-Durrah&diff=219240120&oldid=219177351] At 14:11, you deleted it, without a sufficiently good reason.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhammad_al-Durrah&diff=219286547&oldid=219242217] This is a bit of a "grey area" revert since there were other intervening edits, but that it came so close after ChrisO's edit, plus that you were removing a valid source, combined with some of your activities, and the fact that your account is being used for a [[WP:SPA|single purpose]], have raised sufficient concerns that I am imposing some restrictions on your editing, per the above ArbCom case. I am not entirely banning you from the article or talkpage, but I am asking you to avoid edits to the [[WP:LEAD|lead]] of the article for the next 30 days (this includes the image and its caption). It is also my strong recommendation that you spend some time editing other articles, which will help you to gain experience in Wikipedia's procedures. In the meantime, you are still welcome to make other (non-lead) edits to the [[Muhammad al-Durrah]] article, and continue participating at the talkpage. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions, --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 15:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome!

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Hi I am Julia. I have edited under the name southkept but lost the password and can not get into the account. can anyone help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Julia1987 (talkcontribs) 10:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you specify an email address in your preferences?...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 10:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Remove tnull| from the helpme template above when you give a response...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 10:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarcasm doesn't go over so great on the web. Despite the temptation, and I know how great that temptation is; you should avoid it and be clear on your statements. I would suggest refactoring that comment and asserting your view with more clarity.
With respect, JaakobouChalk Talk 17:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. if I misread into your comment, than I apologize. JaakobouChalk Talk 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resilience

The Resilient Barnstar
For taking note from comments and suggestions and for the ability to recover/finish with a smile. JaakobouChalk Talk 22:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note

I think you should take the 'fringe' issue to WP:FTN. JaakobouChalk Talk 19:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Durrah

I read what was made public in Liberation. I have made some of the same points you have made, regarding freedom of speech, on the article's Talk page. Canadian Monkey (talk) 16:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged here. -- ChrisO (talk) 08:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that ChrisO is an involved administrator in several ways, and cannot personally sanction you for disagreeing with him. Jayjg (talk) 04:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Julia1987, regarding Jayjg's comment, I agree that ChrisO cannot apply sanctions against you, because he is deemed to be involved in the editing dispute. However, now that you have been notified, an uninvolved admin could apply sanctions. Looking at your recent edits, I'm concerned that your talk page edits aren't entirely focused on article improvement. Accordingly, I suggest you have a look at the talk page guidelines. In particular, please take care to avoid the appearance of soap boxing. Thank-you. PhilKnight (talk) 00:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tone

Julia, please, remember, try to avoid "you" and "your". It's not necessary to directly confront editors on the talkpage. Let that be my job, and you can focus on the article. If you think that I am not properly addressing disruption, you can bring it up on my talkpage if I haven't gotten to it in a timely manner. So please, try harder to "stick to the article"? Thanks, Elonka 18:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, I think you need to get caught up a bit. Check ChrisO's talkpage. And then, please, remove anything from Talk:Muhammad al-Durah which is about editors, as opposed to being about the article. Remember, "you" and "your".  :) Thanks, --Elonka 03:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing restriction

Julia1987 (talk · contribs), as you know, there are conditions for editing at Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah, an article where you have been participating to exclusion of all else, since your account was created on May 22. One of the conditions is "no reverts". On June 14 at 07:10, ChrisO added some information that was well-sourced.[1] At 14:11, you deleted it, without a sufficiently good reason.[2] This is a bit of a "grey area" revert since there were other intervening edits, but that it came so close after ChrisO's edit, plus that you were removing a valid source, combined with some of your activities, and the fact that your account is being used for a single purpose, have raised sufficient concerns that I am imposing some restrictions on your editing, per the above ArbCom case. I am not entirely banning you from the article or talkpage, but I am asking you to avoid edits to the lead of the article for the next 30 days (this includes the image and its caption). It is also my strong recommendation that you spend some time editing other articles, which will help you to gain experience in Wikipedia's procedures. In the meantime, you are still welcome to make other (non-lead) edits to the Muhammad al-Durrah article, and continue participating at the talkpage. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions, --Elonka 15:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]