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::Yes, restoring the tag counts as a revert. See [[WP:1RR]] for what that means. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~[[User:Awilley|Awilley]] <small>([[User talk:Awilley|talk]])</small></span> 21:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
::Yes, restoring the tag counts as a revert. See [[WP:1RR]] for what that means. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~[[User:Awilley|Awilley]] <small>([[User talk:Awilley|talk]])</small></span> 21:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
:::ok,thx[[User:KINGOFTO|KINGOFTO]] ([[User talk:KINGOFTO#top|talk]]) 02:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
:::ok,thx[[User:KINGOFTO|KINGOFTO]] ([[User talk:KINGOFTO#top|talk]]) 02:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

==Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction==
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{{Talkquote|1=You have been topic banned indefinitely from [[Donald Trump]] and all related pages, broadly construed. Please read [[WP:TBAN]] to make sure you understand what a topic ban is.}}

You have been sanctioned for persistent disruptive editing at [[Donald Trump]] and its talkpage. You have just stuck the NPOV tag on [[Donald Trump]] yet again, and again against consensus, after the warnings you have been given. Please note that it's pointless to claim in the edit summary that the tag is "not a badge of shame or warning." The point about the "badge of shame" argument is that ''all readers of the article see the tag''. We write for the readers. They generally don't read page histories, nor talk pages. They just read the articles. They are very much affected by tags and should never be exposed to them if it's not necessary. And this is an unnecessary tag, since the point of tags is to encourage discussion — discussion which was already going on. It seems to me you have been told this same thing a number of times now. You restored the tag without waiting for an answer to the question you had put about it[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&diff=747360566&oldid=747344410] — you (presumably by mistake) commented out the phrasing you were asking about, which made it invisible on the page and thus rather hard to answer — but, in any case, you didn't wait, but unilaterally decided you didn't need to respect the restriction at the top of the page. That's the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Involved admins|uninvolved administrator]] under the authority of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]]'s decision at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Final decision]] and, if applicable, the procedure described at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions]]. This sanction has been recorded in the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/Log/2016|log of sanctions]]. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|banning policy]] to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Appeals and modifications|here]]. I recommend that you use the [[Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal#Usage|arbitration enforcement appeals template]] if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard.&nbsp;Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you.<!-- Template:AE sanction.--> [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] &#124; [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 23:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
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Discretionary sanctions alerts

I'm sorry, KINGOFTO, I know you have already received a discretionary sanctions alert concerning Donald Trump, and I don't want to pester you. But the previous alert failed to note and link to the relevant arbitration committee decisions for American politics and biographies of living people, so you had better have a couple of notices that do. Bishonen | talk 03:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC).[reply]

This message contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. It does not imply any misconduct regarding your own contributions to date.

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.  Bishonen | talk 03:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC).[reply]

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This message contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. It does not imply any misconduct regarding your own contributions to date.

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.  Bishonen | talk 03:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC).[reply]

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ok..thank you..I am having trouble understanding why my inserting a tag is subject to discipline? KINGOFTO (talk) 14:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Several experienced editors, for instance Melanie, JasperTech, Dr. Fleischman and MrX, have explained the purpose of such tags and why one isn't appropriate for this article. There's consensus against the tag, and you're frankly cruising for a sanction when you edit war to reinsert it. Please listen better to what people tell you on the talkpage; you don't seem to be taking any of it in. Bishonen | talk 15:26, 28 October 2016 (UTC).[reply]

There's also a big ol' notice at the top of the article when you click edit which says:

"< Firm consensus is needed to re-install a POV tag atop this article per discretionary sanctions. Please consider proposing it at the talk page, or getting attention of further editors other ways, like using an RFC or a section tag or an inline tag.>" Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I inquired on Marek's talk page. KINGOFTO (talk) 19:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1RR

Your most recent edit on Trump is a violation of 1RR. Please self-revert; if not, it will be discussed at a noticeboard. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 04:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I inquired on commenter's talk page. KINGOFTO (talk) 19:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, restoring the tag counts as a revert. See WP:1RR for what that means. ~Awilley (talk) 21:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ok,thxKINGOFTO (talk) 02:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction

The following sanction now applies to you:

You have been topic banned indefinitely from Donald Trump and all related pages, broadly construed. Please read WP:TBAN to make sure you understand what a topic ban is.

You have been sanctioned for persistent disruptive editing at Donald Trump and its talkpage. You have just stuck the NPOV tag on Donald Trump yet again, and again against consensus, after the warnings you have been given. Please note that it's pointless to claim in the edit summary that the tag is "not a badge of shame or warning." The point about the "badge of shame" argument is that all readers of the article see the tag. We write for the readers. They generally don't read page histories, nor talk pages. They just read the articles. They are very much affected by tags and should never be exposed to them if it's not necessary. And this is an unnecessary tag, since the point of tags is to encourage discussion — discussion which was already going on. It seems to me you have been told this same thing a number of times now. You restored the tag without waiting for an answer to the question you had put about it[1] — you (presumably by mistake) commented out the phrasing you were asking about, which made it invisible on the page and thus rather hard to answer — but, in any case, you didn't wait, but unilaterally decided you didn't need to respect the restriction at the top of the page. That's the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Bishonen | talk 23:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bishonen | talk 23:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]