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May 2013

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for violating your ban from interacting with Volunteer Marek, as explained on my talk page,

you have been blocked from editing for 48 hours. You are welcome to make useful contributions once the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks and then appeal your block using the instructions there. Sandstein 19:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.

Again, Russavia? AGK [•] 14:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes AGK, unfortunately, Sandstein has blocked me yet again. But whilst you are here, I've commented over on Meta in relation to the child protect -- you may want to alert readers on JW's talk page at User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Child_protection of that, because it will be pointless to work on policy here if the entire WMF community wants the WMF to take that over. You may also wish to alert other projects to its existence as well. You know, I've contacted Sue, Jimmy, Legal and Philippe about the very issues I raised (from a Common's standpoint) after the Beta M case last year on Commons, but never heard anything back (seems to be the standard thing). Russavia (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Meta:User_talk:Sue_Gardner#Child_protection is the link for anyone interested. Russavia (talk) 14:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Russavia, my point was actually that if you cannot stop acting in a disruptive or distracting way, your ability to edit will be untenable. If you step out of line again, I will indefinitely block you. Please behave. AGK [•] 10:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rock on

Thanks for staying unblocked long enough to make this edit with an edit summary that gave me a good chuckle... No Future... rock on! Zad68 03:57, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being the first person since I've come back not to be threatening or trolling on my talk page lol. Anyway punk monkey looks badass -- the darker right eye (our left when viewing it) gives him an air of authority -- don't mess with punk monkey!! Russavia (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

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Your removals of content at the Wikipediocracy article here puts you over 3RR. Please self revert. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted. Have you reverted your re-addition of a copyright violation and advertising from the article? Russavia (talk) 20:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is neither, and already said so on the article talk page. BTW, that monkey picture is excellent. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:33, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you whack a quotation mark around it doesn't mean that 1) it isn't a copyvio or 2) it isn't POV advertorial puffery. But whatever. I'm just going to sit back and watch from here on out -- see who's here to build an encyclopaedia, and who's here to troll this project and engage in bullshit. Russavia (talk) 20:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Four reverts on Wikipediocracy

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You seem to have reverted four times now on Wikipediocracy. Perhaps you'd consider self-reverting your last reversion? — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still inserting BLP violations into the article? You know I reverted your re-insertion of a BLP once, and so it doesn't count. 20:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Why don't you take it to BLPN rather than edit-warring and mumbling vague incantations about BLP if you're so concerned about it?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nup, I'll just sit back and watch from here on out. It's gonna be fun. Russavia (talk) 20:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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"Obvious Trolling"

Russavia, I'm seeing obvious trolling. I'm seeing members of Wikipediocracy trolling you and I'm seeing you trolling members of Wikipediocracy. I understand that this might be hard for you, but stop responding. You are spending an inordinate amount of time baiting blocked editors and otherwise grave dancing. It's something I don't stand for and if you carry on down this route your indefinite block will be re-instated. So, it looks like you've got a choice - carrot or stick. Carrot, you start getting on with useful stuff on the encyclopedia and step away from Wikipediocracy, broadly construed, I will remove that "involved editor" bit and will consider other ways of improving the situation. Stick, you carry on baiting and whinging and you will be blocked indefinitely very quickly. You are welcome to try and find some middle ground - but I don't see it as likely. Worm^TT(talk) 10:42, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying. It is disappointing that you have came to me as your first point of call though. Can I ask are you giving the same warning to these members? I have taken that article off my watchlist, and was alerted to the problem by another editor.

Now, WTT, that link has been OS'ed; perhaps Arbcom can deal with this admission it was deliberate on his part. If you deal with that, I will get back to editing. Should see what I've been working on content wise :) Russavia (talk) 11:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm coming to you because I've been watching your editing over the past 10 weeks (that's all, just 10 weeks since you were unblocked by Arbcom) and I'm not impressed with your current record. I'm happy to drop a bucket load of diffs on your page, I've been collecting them. It's time you walked away from this battle. Worm^TT(talk) 11:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm not happy with the way in which this project has for a long time allowed trolls to run riot on the project, and for editors to be categorically harassed and bullied. Thank god Commons doesn't have a vile atmosphere like enwp does; this project is broken. But say, since you are here, would you mind protecting my talk page so only established editors can edit it; I will set up a separate talk page where IPs can edit. This will go some way to keep the trolls at bay; don't you think? Russavia (talk) 11:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a problem with that. In return, I think it would be a good idea that you stop using the word "troll", which is uncivil at best and a personal attack at worst. It does have a specific use in internet parlance, but given the regularity with which you use it, I'm unsure you fully understand that usage. You suggest that enwp has a vile atmosphere, labelling a large group of people as "trolls" might (just might) be a good example of that. Worm^TT(talk) 11:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry WTT, I didn't realise the word troll shouldn't be used on this project like that. It's just that I recall it being used against me multiple times on this very project, including by members of the Arbitration Committee, without any real evidence, so I just thought it's the done and acceptable thing on this project; a case of monkey see, monkey do. But now that you have clarified that this absolutely isn't acceptable, know that I have taken your advice on board, and will implement it immediately, and in future I will only refer to people as "good faith editors". There we go, I'm a Wikipedian again. It's good to be back. Thanks for your kind words WTT. :))) Russavia (talk) 12:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks also for protecting my user talk; I'll set up shortly an avenue where good faith IP editors will be able to leave their messages for me. Cheers, Russavia (talk) 12:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're not the only one to say it, that doesn't mean it's fine to say. Worm^TT(talk) 12:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]