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Deletion of Feathercoin article
Please where can I access the text of the deleted Feathercoin article. I have made textual contributions to it, of which I have no backup. Could you please paste the deleted article to my user space? Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 04:17, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I may not paste the text of Feathercoin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) without proper attribution, and that would require restoring the full history. And your contributions are too dispersed to easily extract them from the deleted history. So I can't do what you ask. Sandstein 09:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- So deleting the article with 50-50 keep-delete discussion is a go, but making the text available to the contributors for revision is a no go, am I getting this right? Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 06:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
As the article has been deleted again and I'm the original author, please move it to my user space at Feathercoin according to WP:USERFY - WSF (talk) 22:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
I am not sure whether you are realizing that what is being disputed here is your decision to close the discussion with 50:50 delete/keep votes. Kokot.kokotisko (talk) 00:38, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- No, that cannot be true as that's clearly not under dispute - AFD's don't go by !vote, they go by policy-based discussion. And obvious !votestacking always does the opposite of what you want ES&L 00:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Thanks for the heads up that this topic is sanctionable. The article, as it stands now, is quite different from my first few edits (more sources, sort of "sugarcoated" less direct/controversial claims). Is it still objectionable, in your opinion? --Kaj Taj Mahal (talk) 21:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Er, which article? How does this concern me? Sandstein 09:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't concern you per se, but you did appear to take interest on the article of James Delingpole on AE. I was just curious on whether you thought that sanctions could be applied to the authors of the current version (myself included). --Kaj Taj Mahal (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- I can't say. I'm not familiar with the topic or the sources. If there are any remaining problems with the article, they will need to be resolved through the normal dispute resolution process. Sandstein 12:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't concern you per se, but you did appear to take interest on the article of James Delingpole on AE. I was just curious on whether you thought that sanctions could be applied to the authors of the current version (myself included). --Kaj Taj Mahal (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Discuss?
I've heard your arguments, thanks. Further discussion, if needed, should take place at WP:AE. Sandstein 12:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC) |
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I am sorry to object to your last AE comment (I usually agree with your judgement), however I simply do not think that you can declare "fringe" any source based on its citation (and use this as a reason for sanctions). There are lots of sources with zero citation index in bibliographic databases. That does not make any of them "fringe" or inappropriate for use in Wikipedia. Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 18:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
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Appeal
I have filed an appeal against the sanction you imposed here Darkness Shines (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Delingpole BLP
I removed what you appear to indicate are clear violations of WP:BLP and think it is time to lock up this puppy James Delingpole before anyone tries to re-add the clearly inapt snippets. Cheers. Collect (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hm, what I objected to on BLP policy grounds was stuff like "mental midget" or, without sources, "he has no scientific qualifications". What you removed reads like a more or less veiled attack on this person's credentials, and may be objectionable on neutrality grounds, especially given its position in the lead. But whether it actually violates our BLP policy would need scrutiny of the sources and the whole article, which I have not done. It's in my view a possible BLP policy violation, but not an obvious one (as would e.g. "D. is a corrupt asshole").
If you think that the article needs protection, WP:RPP would be the place to request that. At a glance, there does not seem to be ongoing edit-warring that would need immediate protection. If somebody adds content in violation of the BLP policy, it might be preferable to request targeted sanctions against them at WP:AE instead of locking up the article for everyone. Sandstein 14:48, 14 January 2014 (UTC)