User talk:Spartaz

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What again?

I'm a long term user (first edit 2006) and have been an admin on or off since 2017. That makes me a bit stuck in my ways but I have the benefit of experience and working through many of the changes that have left us where we are. I am getting grumpy. Sorry but all the drama and grief has washed away a lot of my younger idealism...

A BLP is a serious matter and needs to be properly sourced.

I mostly work on deletion discussions. I am willing to userfy deleted articles for improvement as long as there is a reasonable likelihood that they can be saved. If you are challenging a deletion, do you have three good sources? Also, don’t waste your time asking me to review a close or you are going to DRV because I’m not going to review a close with a sword hanging over my head. Just raise the DRV or ask someone else.

Useful Links:

• Deletion Review
• Articles for Deletion
• Unblocks

Please don't leave talkback templates as I always watchlist pages when I edit and I'm perfectly capable of looking for a reply myself.

please stay in the top three tiers

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Do you think you could reopen that close for another week? It's sad to see 24 sources go down the drain.104.163.159.237 (talk) 07:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm afraid the consensus was pretty clear. Spartaz ^Humbug! 13:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeshiva University Medical Ethics Society Page

Hi @Spartaz:,

I was curious to find out why my post on the Yeshiva University Student Medical Ethics Society was deleted. If the issue is reliable sources, the society is entirely student-run, and the page is written and managed by its presidents, as primary source as we can get. If you'd like related links to substantiate the validity of the society, I'd be more than happy to add those. Alternatively, I understand that the tone of the article is somewhat promotional, which may contradict Wikipedia's ethos of objective fact-reporting. If this is the issue, I'd be happy to edit the article to reflect Wikipedia's informational goals. Please let me know how I can proceed in remedying this issue to get our page back up in a timely manner.

Deletion Log: 21:12, 28 April 2018 Spartaz (talk | contribs) deleted page Yeshiva University Medical Ethics Society (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yeshiva University Medical Ethics Society (XFDcloser))

Thank you! 66.65.33.255 (talk) 00:50, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

it wasn't your edit but we decided not to keep the article. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yeshiva University Medical Ethics Society Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:22, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

University of Alberta Outdoors Club

Hi @Spartaz:,

Hey, I understand the reason for the deletion of the University of Alberta Outdoors Club - is it possible to get a screen-shot of the page or undelete it just for a moment so that I may take down the information? It was a lot of work to source every line of the clubs history, and I'd love to submit it to the University and/or the club for their archival purposes.

I'm also interested, even though it was primarily sourced does a ski hill that was verifiably used by 100-200 people in the 50's of Edmonton not count as notable? Not trying to be exceptionally salty, just curious about how to establish notability? Thanks for your time. Don't take life Sieriously, no one ever gets out alive anyway. 00:22, 3 May 2018 (UTC)N64kidg

Notability comes from the notability standard and organisational guideline. You don't have email enabled, but, if you turn it on, I'll happily send you a copy of the deleted text. Spartaz ^Humbug! 15:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Re-review Request

Hello Admin! Sorry for disturbing but just wanted to make another request to you on the deletion of [this article]. I just wanted to tell you, that apart from WP:GNG, other arguments were also being made about the subject in regards to WP:ACADEMIC criteria 5 in AfD and criteria 6 in another forum [here]. I honestly think, if article is re-listed, it might have a chance. Thank you!  M A A Z   T A L K  17:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

The consensus of the discussion was that acting =! Notable and a random question =! A realistic possibility they pass prof. Sorry but I'm afraid you are reading it the wrong way. Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes. But the discussion was whether the subject was in an acting position or not as illustrated in talk-page of article(deleted at the moment) and by @Tryptofish:'s comment here. And, there were also other things to consider like criteria 5, GNG,etc. Anyways, I think, we can leave the discussion on WP:ACADEMIC here at the moment as I'm seeing that there's also a draft being prepared about these particular issues. But even if ignoring WP:ACADEMIC criteria at the moment, please do consider reviewing the article on the basis of WP:GNG.  M A A Z   T A L K  19:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Apart from English sources, there also exist Urdu sources about the subject that shouldn't be ignored.  M A A Z   T A L K  19:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the ping. I commented on the guideline in a general sense, but I have no opinion about the AfD. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Tryptofish Fair enough. I just pinged so that these issues may help for the new draft. Regarding the AfD, I just think that it passes GNG, as it has reliable sources of DAWN, Brecorder,etc. and also Urdu sources.  M A A Z   T A L K  20:05, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

but your sources were not accepted by experienced editors commenting on the discussion after you raised them. That's what swung the close and unless I ignore them (which would be a super vote) there was no way I could close otherwise. Spartaz ^Humbug! 20:27, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion, keep voters were also experienced. And, I had content dispute with these delete voters at few other articles and all the delete votes, which came one after another, IMO, did not merit funneling the discussion to delete. I added reliable sources like Dawn,Brecorder,etc and if some people out of their ignorance do not consider them reliable then that's their problem.  M A A Z   T A L K  21:27, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Seriously?? That's yor argument, everyone who voted delete did it to spite you!! I think we are done here. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)