User talk:Wtshymanski

RfC

An RfC involving you has been opened at Talk: Electrical engineering#Unsourced material. SpinningSpark 20:50, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

It is just this sort of comment that makes your editing problematic and your civility questionable. Instead of ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments why don't you try addressing the actual issue? SpinningSpark 21:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Again, if you don't like the content, delete it. That's what the edit button is for. There's no "ad hominem" attack. If it were an "attack" it would be more more of an "ad articlem" attack, or maybe an "ad Wikifollyem" attack, but it's a bit like saying "It's cold outside today" is an "attack" on Mother Nature. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying you will not reinsert again if I remove it? SpinningSpark 21:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you asking my permission to edit an article? I'm not Jim Wales I don't own it. "Do what you will" is the Whole of the Wikilaw. --Wtshymanski (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm not asking your permission. I'm trying to establish whether or not another edit will be prolonging an edit war. Will you reinsert the material if I remove it? SpinningSpark 23:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

You don't think it's completely ludicrous that the most important application that spurred the development of electrical engineering as an identifiable discipline will be *completely ignored* in this so-called "featured article" if that material is removed? That doesn't seem reasonable to me. If it seems reasonable to you, then we have no basis for communication. How about working on references instead of edit-warring and bitching? Is it just *remotely conceivable*, stretching your imagination to the utmost limits, that just perhaps this is a significant omission in this so-called "featured article" ? (You'll be thrilled that a member of my hired claque has already removed the material, giving you +1 in the revert war.) --Wtshymanski (talk) 01:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you that something on telegraphy should be in the article, I have already said so on the talk page. I would also be prepared to work with you in finding references. What I do not think is reasonable is for you to expect others to do all the hard work of referencing. This is one of the hardest parts of writing a good article, you have to write from the sources, not from what you know, or think you know.

Actually, as far as deleting stuff goes, I am more concerned about getting the long, and unsourced, debate over the electrical/electronic issue out of the article. This is at best tangential to what this article is about, and is only going to attract a lot of unwelcome listcruft for every university in the world (it's started already). SpinningSpark 01:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh goody. Can I AfD any article that has no references? Why should I do all the work of finding references if the original contributor is too lazy to turn out brilliant prose right from the start? Excuse me, I thought this was the Wikipedia, not the Encyclopedia Britannica...whatever happened to growing articles? --Wtshymanski (talk) 22:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: MetaCarta

Hello Wtshymanski. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of MetaCarta, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The sourcing seems weak and there may be a notability issue, but the text does not read as blatantly promotional and rather than a fundamental rewrite, a minor trimming would resolve any advert-style issues. No prejudice against AFD or PROD if you feel it warrants it. I note the article has been around for nearly 4 years, whether this means there are no more sources to add is hard to say without a wider discussion. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Cree Inc.

So it's a blog. So what? The reporter has been at the newspaper for years. You presume YOU are so special to deem his articles unworthy then?Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 23:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)