Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Lawton (2nd nomination)
Andrew Lawton
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Nomination created on behalf of 67.193.129.239 (talk · contribs). The user's rationale should be given shortly. Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 08:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Note The nominator's concerns at WT:AFD were "Similar non-notable biography was deleted in 2006". I withhold !voting delete or keep until a more thorough indication of why this article should be deleted is asserted by the nominator. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 08:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. Article violates WP:NTEMP. Being a blogger with mentions in a couple of news stories about specific incedental events does not provide enough notability to warrant an article. Also doesn't meet WP:BIO. Not a depth of coverage, and coverage that exists comes only from a local newspaper and a campus newspaper. Also, subject clearly does not meet WP:POLITICIAN, WP:AUTHOR or WP:ENT. Won one category in a blogging award that itself did not receive any covereage and I don't believe that the award org is notable itself. Can't find any coverage in Google News for the last 4 years besides the two sources noted. 67.193.129.239 (talk) 18:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. I would defend the presence of this article based on Mr. Lawton's status as a columnist for the Examiner and panelist on the Michael Coren Show. I did a Google-search on the websites of both the Examiner and the Michael Coren Show and there is no question that Lawton has appeared in both of those sources. With a position writing for an international news publication and being a panelist on a National television program, what more is needed for notoriety? Jamie.wallace123 (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- According to their website, there more than 24,000 'Examiners' who write for Examiner.com. Lawton is a Toronto Policy Examiner, and if I lived in Toronto I could be one too, judging by the active recruiting the site is doing in the Canadian market. Hardly meets the notability requirements for a columnist. As for being a regular panelist on the Michael Coren show, not only would that not be enough for notability, but it's not even true. A quick look at the Google cache for Michael Coren's website shows the entry for Jan. 13, 2010 as having "debut guest Andrew Lawton." Maybe he'll become a regular panelist, but until then refer you to WP:CRYSTAL. My original opinion stands. --67.193.129.239 (talk) 03:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Keep.Personally, I don't see how a website paying a large number of people to write takes away from the notability of those people. Perhaps the Wikipedia guidelines themselves need to be updated? Andrew has a strong web presence and a history of controversy. I have been reading his work for a few years and only found his old blog because of the reputation that preceded him. He's most certainly not an unknown. 129.100.191.74 (talk) 20:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC) — 129.100.191.74 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep. I'm inclined to agree. I'm from London, Ontario as well...and Andrew is definitely a public figure on a local level, and a celebrity within a certain (large) niche on a national level. Truthfully, there's a lot more he's done that's not in this article (such as organizing a National tour for Ann Coulter, but he still warrants an article. 206.53.157.54 (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Do you have any reliable sources to back up your comments? If so, those sources would meet the general notability guideline, but without sources nothing can be done, really. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 18:55, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: The topic is covered in detail in reliable sources. - Ret.Prof (talk) 14:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- Delete could not find significant coverage by reliable sources. University paper not enough. Coverage by London Free Press (not including the 404 relating to a small rally) is about a child porn scandal, not Andrew Lawton, which makes it a case of WP:BLP1E at most.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. Could not find coverage using the Tri-State (ND,MN,SD) library book/periodical system. Can not find any sources that meet the WP:RS guidelines nor the WP:GNG guidelines. Where are the national news articles? Where is the non-local coverage by a reputable, peer-edited sources on this person? The hero worship is getting a bit thick on Wikipedia lately. --Brian(view my history)/(How am I doing?) 04:33, 27 January 2010 (UTC)