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:*'''Comment''': You and possibly other anon editors, please read [[WP:RGW]] and [[WP:ADVOCACY]]. Wikipedia is a place for documenting information, not for warning the public. [[User:PrincessPandaWiki|<span style="color:#FF0090">❤︎'''PrincessPandaWiki'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:PrincessPandaWiki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/PrincessPandaWiki|contribs]])</small> 14:58, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''': You and possibly other anon editors, please read [[WP:RGW]] and [[WP:ADVOCACY]]. Wikipedia is a place for documenting information, not for warning the public. [[User:PrincessPandaWiki|<span style="color:#FF0090">❤︎'''PrincessPandaWiki'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:PrincessPandaWiki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/PrincessPandaWiki|contribs]])</small> 14:58, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''Keep''': WP:BLPE; he is notable for his 2003 charges coupled with ongoing controversy. There are plenty of people who are far less “notable” than Peck but have their own pages, all stubs. I believe that this page has enough sources due to recent press on Peck (as well as the 2003 charges) that this could be anything but a stub.. of course, if it’s not to be deleted. [[User:Sugar, Spice, and XX|Sugar, Spice, and XX]] ([[User talk:Sugar, Spice, and XX|talk]]) 23:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''Keep''': WP:BLPE; he is notable for his 2003 charges coupled with ongoing controversy. There are plenty of people who are far less “notable” than Peck but have their own pages, all stubs. I believe that this page has enough sources due to recent press on Peck (as well as the 2003 charges) that this could be anything but a stub.. of course, if it’s not to be deleted. [[User:Sugar, Spice, and XX|Sugar, Spice, and XX]] ([[User talk:Sugar, Spice, and XX|talk]]) 23:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
::*'''Comment''':You can argue that his charges are ongoing - especially with him being the subject of some documentaries. However, saying that people who are far less "notable" than Peck have their own Wikipedia page may veer into an [[Wikipedia:When to use or avoid "other stuff exists" arguments|WP:OtherStuffExists]] argument. As I mentioned in my '''Keep''' argument, Peck was notable for his minor roles before his controversies. His future notability also veers into [[WP:Crystal]] as well, but as it stands - there are a lot of sources that make Peck a notable figure. ''[[User:Yoshiman6464|<span style="font-family: courier; color:#0047ab">Yoshiman6464</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Yoshiman6464|♫🥚]]</sup>'' 03:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''':You can argue that his charges are ongoing - especially with him being the subject of some documentaries. However, saying that people who are far less "notable" than Peck have their own Wikipedia page may veer into an [[Wikipedia:When to use or avoid "other stuff exists" arguments|WP:OtherStuffExists]] argument. As I mentioned in my '''Keep''' argument, Peck was notable for his minor roles before his controversies. His future notability also veers into [[WP:Crystal]] as well, but as it stands - there are a lot of sources that make Peck a notable figure. ''[[User:Yoshiman6464|<span style="font-family: courier; color:#0047ab">Yoshiman6464</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Yoshiman6464|♫🥚]]</sup>'' 03:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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Brian Peck

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Seems to have been created solely as a reaction to a recent documentary airing where this person is featured in some of the episodes as a perpetrator. This person is listed as an actor and a criminal on the page, but fails WP:ENTERTAINER as an actor, having not had significant roles in multiple notable films. And also seems to fail WP:CRIMINAL given the there is already in-depth coverage of the accusations surrounding him on the Drake Bell and "Quiet on Set" documentary pages (per guidelines: The criminal is question should only be the subject of a Wikipedia article only "where there are no appropriate existing articles"). Additionally, the recent news coverage all seem to relate to the documentary, so there doesn't seem to be enough coverage to satisfy WP:SUSTAINED, either. (Also, not sure, but does the page fail WP:BLP1E?) I note that other criminals (such as Wayne Couzens, who received far more news coverage and has several documentaries dedicated to him) do not have their own WP page. I'm learning! Thanks. WikiMane11 (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This convicted rapist deserves to be broadcasted as a danger to society. 2600:1700:2980:5590:E494:AE3D:17AA:3921 (talk) 01:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect or merge to Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV, where most info is already at, per nom. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As a strong contributor to the article, his article should be kept. You can argue that he appeared ONLY in minor roles on television and film, but some - like Scuz on Return of the Living Dead and Pickle Boy on All That - are memorable roles. His role on Return of the Living Dead has nothing to do with the Quiet on Set doc. I cited articles where Peck was mentioned even before 2003. Finally, the argument about Brian Peck not having an article because Wayne Couzens not having an article is flimsy. It seems like a WP:OtherStuffExists argument. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 12:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: 1) Plenty of sources/coverage/whatever. 2) As someone stated above, "This convicted rapist deserves to be broadcasted as a danger to society." —theMainLogan (tc) 13:21, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What? What makes you believe it's our job to do that? We aren't playing judge, we're building an encyclopedia. Industrial Insect (talk) 18:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess "building an encyclopedia" includes doing damage control for a convicted child rapist (CONVICTED, so we're not "playing judge")? 2607:9B00:2000:4D00:A61A:3C6C:43F7:A78C (talk) 05:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But Wikipedia isn't an online sex offender's database. It's an encyclopedia? WikiMane11 (talk) 15:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "This convicted rapist deserves to be broadcasted as a danger to society." This is what I was talking about. it's not our place to do things like this. I agree, however, that "playing judge" was a poor choice of words. Industrial Insect (talk) 18:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: With regard to WP:BLP1E, Mr. Peck is not notable for just one event (the 2003 charge), but rather because of the ongoing controversy regarding that type of event- consensual sex with a 15-year-old resulting in prison. And he may be notable as a Hollywood figure, (not as an actor) but as “the Forrest Gump of Hollywood because he knew everybody" and someone who had many well known supporters after his arrest. 71.230.16.111 (talk) 06:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Wayne Couzens was a police officer in the UK. He wasnt famous. The fact you said that this pedo shouldnt have a wikipedia page because some unknown murderer doesnt have one is completely backward. Brian Peck used and abused his power. He sexually assaulted a child. He worked with children and worked in the entertainment industry. He should have a WP page, so people know who he is and can stop him being a danger still. 2A01:4B00:9DE7:7600:B298:D96D:1DB:3A11 (talk) 21:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:BLPE; he is notable for his 2003 charges coupled with ongoing controversy. There are plenty of people who are far less “notable” than Peck but have their own pages, all stubs. I believe that this page has enough sources due to recent press on Peck (as well as the 2003 charges) that this could be anything but a stub.. of course, if it’s not to be deleted. Sugar, Spice, and XX (talk) 23:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:You can argue that his charges are ongoing - especially with him being the subject of some documentaries. However, saying that people who are far less "notable" than Peck have their own Wikipedia page may veer into an WP:OtherStuffExists argument. As I mentioned in my Keep argument, Peck was notable for his minor roles before his controversies. His future notability also veers into WP:Crystal as well, but as it stands - there are a lot of sources that make Peck a notable figure. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 03:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]