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*'''Delete''' nuke the article from orbit. A joke by Elon Musk on Twitter is not enough for an article, and there's not enough reliable coverage to believe this farce to be true. [[User:power~enwiki|power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 20:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' nuke the article from orbit. A joke by Elon Musk on Twitter is not enough for an article, and there's not enough reliable coverage to believe this farce to be true. [[User:power~enwiki|power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 20:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
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*'''Comment/Move to Draft''' This is precisely why the [[WP:Incubator|Wikipedia Incubator]] was created. The idea that this is a joke or not is still in dispute and I suspect a more complete story about this will come out next week. Still, that is a solid [[WP:CRYSTAL]] argument. There are sufficient reliable sources to avoid deletion, but it really needs to move to some sort of draft article status for now and heavily watched. Please move this at least out of the main article space, no matter what else happens. As a side note, this vehicle actually is already notable because it is literally serial number 0001 off of the production line for the original Tesla Roadster and quite literally the very first Tesla automobile sold to anybody (Elon Musk contractually purchased it when he originally invested into Tesla Motors). And yes, there are reliable sources for that trivial. As to if in that condition it needs to remain a separate article is something to debate, so in that case.... '''Merge to the [[Tesla, Inc.]] article''' for those little tidbits of actual information in terms of this genuinely historical vehicle. If it turns out to be a real thing (with Elon Musk, it is hard to know), then something far more substantial can be written. --[[User:Robert Horning|Robert Horning]] ([[User talk:Robert Horning|talk]]) 01:17, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Elon Musk's midnight cherry Tesla Roadster

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An individual car. Fails WP:GNG. Was briefly in the news because Musk tweeted that he'd launch it to Mars, which turned out to be a joke. Still, this is the WP:BLP1E equivalent for cars, as there seems to be little else to say about this specific car. Sandstein 15:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep it until further, official info is given - It's only been disproven by one news outlet, everyone else says it's true. Just keep it until we learn more from reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IanThePineapple (talkcontribs) 21:17, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I agree that if this is a joke the car is not notable. However there are still reputable source such as Space News or the twitter account of Eric Berger which say the story is authentic. See here for I think a reasonable view of the current status. There is only one source I have found which says the story is a joke; The Verge. So if a joke, Delete, if it is on board Falcon Heavy, the first commercial car launched beyond Low Earth Orbit is intrinsically notable so Keep. Anyhow, any payload launched to Mars is notable per se. So for the moment my advice is Wait. Hektor (talk) 15:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even if it's not a joke, this doesn't make the car notable. It's just an inert payload. What makes it particular is that it is supposedly to be shot into space. This means that the rocket launch, not the car, is the notable thing here. The launch will get an article, as these things do, and the car can be covered as part of that article if it's indeed aboard. Sandstein 19:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • We disagree on that point. All payloads to Mars have their own article, and the car has powerful battery so is not an inert payload at least during the first days of its flight. Hektor (talk) 22:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. All news outlets (including Ars Technica) report it is true, except for The Verge. I say wait. If correct, and if approved by the FAA, the vehicle will be quite notable and popular, so it has to become a keep. BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:29, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm (talk) 16:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Never have I ever. Fails the GNG, belongs in a short little mention in either the Falcon Heavy Article or in Elon's own article under the "Plum Loconess" heading. L3X1 (distænt write) 19:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a good chance this will be notable, but not until after it launches in January as we have no proof the vehicle even exists right now. TOOSOON L3X1 (distænt write) 19:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing as it is he said she said about whether it is a joke or not [1] this really is toosoon. L3X1 (distænt write) 19:10, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete nuke the article from orbit. A joke by Elon Musk on Twitter is not enough for an article, and there's not enough reliable coverage to believe this farce to be true. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment/Move to Draft This is precisely why the Wikipedia Incubator was created. The idea that this is a joke or not is still in dispute and I suspect a more complete story about this will come out next week. Still, that is a solid WP:CRYSTAL argument. There are sufficient reliable sources to avoid deletion, but it really needs to move to some sort of draft article status for now and heavily watched. Please move this at least out of the main article space, no matter what else happens. As a side note, this vehicle actually is already notable because it is literally serial number 0001 off of the production line for the original Tesla Roadster and quite literally the very first Tesla automobile sold to anybody (Elon Musk contractually purchased it when he originally invested into Tesla Motors). And yes, there are reliable sources for that trivial. As to if in that condition it needs to remain a separate article is something to debate, so in that case.... Merge to the Tesla, Inc. article for those little tidbits of actual information in terms of this genuinely historical vehicle. If it turns out to be a real thing (with Elon Musk, it is hard to know), then something far more substantial can be written. --Robert Horning (talk) 01:17, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]