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Journal of Anime and Manga Studies

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Relatively new journal, not indexed in any selective database, does not meet WP:NJournals. The current version of the article has 11 references. However, almost all are not independent, but either published by the journal itself or its publisher. One independent source is an article in The Washington Post, which is stated to have used the journal to "source" an article. This is somewhat of an exaggeration: the TWP article cites Billy Tringali, mentioning that he's the editor of the Journal of Anime and Manga Studies, so in fact this is just an in passing mention. Taken together, this article also misses WP:GNG, hence: delete. Randykitty (talk) 13:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academic journals and Anime and manga. Randykitty (talk) 13:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Randykitty This journal is indexed in Art and Architecture Source.

[1]https://www.ebsco.com/m/ee/Marketing/titleLists/asu-coverage.htm 2001:18E8:3:10AD:F000:0:0:72A (talk) 19:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know, EBSCO databases are not very selective in the sense of NJournals. --Randykitty (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Selective" feels arbitrary. The "selective" journal listings recommended are social science and science indexes. This is an interdisciplinary journal focused on anime and manga, an art medium, that is indexed in an art database, meaning it meets Criteria 1:B. 2001:18E8:3:10AD:F000:0:0:72A (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A selective database in the sense of NJournals would be the Arts and Humanities Citation Index. I'm sorry, but 1b is not met. --Randykitty (talk) 21:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing on the NJournals that notes that. You are making an arbitrary choice on what does and does not meet 1b. 2001:18E8:3:10AD:F000:0:0:72A (talk) 22:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing arbitrary about that, but a long-standing consensus in this project. See our journal AfD archive. --Randykitty (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very upsetting, but good to know. What warrants a ""selective"" index should be more accurately described in NJournals. 2001:18E8:3:10AD:F000:0:0:72A (talk) 22:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: TOOSOON I think. Even in ResearchGate, it barely cracks the triple digit views [2], hovering around the 1000 view mark. Oaktree b (talk) 20:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be ok with a !Merge to the publisher, which I think is the University of Illinois? Could always fork it after, if it gets more notice.Oaktree b (talk) 20:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that a merge would be undue. In the framework of the whole university, this journal is really not important. --Randykitty (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm new to AFD discussions. And I created this entry, so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to participate in this AFD. I trust that more experienced editors will make the right call on this one, but here's why I thought the journal was notable. Criteria 3 of WP:JOURNALCRIT states that a journal should be historically important. And Criteria 1 that it should be considered influential in its subject area. JAMS, according to an academic conference on the subject of anime studies, is one of only two journals in the field. The conference even named a session after the journal, "MechaJAMS Symposium"--see the 2023 program.[3] I'll take whatever decision this process lands on in the spirit of WP:AGF. -- Jaireeodell (talk) 02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Hello, Jaireeodell. As Tony Wilson (played by Steve Coogan) remarked in 24 Hour Party People - it's good that you're here. It's always good if a significant contributor to (or author of) an article participates in the process. AfD isn't so much about deletion as about where an article might get improved to the point it may warrant inclusion. Can You provide some more references as to the significance of the journal as being one of few to handle anime and manga? Conference programme, sure, but maybe more written material? Perhaps you have access to offline sources? Cheers, Ouro (blah blah) 07:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article cites major players in the Anime, including the Anime News Network, Crunchyroll News, and Anime Expo, on top of an announcement by the National Diet Library, all discussing JAMS. If more detailed coverage is needed, this might be a TOOSOON. 2001:18E8:3:10AD:F000:0:0:72A (talk) 23:00, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:26, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep there is a decent bit of coverage, probably under the GNG bar. Sees broader coverage than most journals including at a non-academic conference. This is more of an IAR thing probably, but... I've gone back-and-forth on this a bit... Hobit (talk) 13:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]