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There is absolutely nothing on this topic (neologism - ?) other than a single book—Creating a New Medina: State Power, Islam, and the Quest for Pakistan in Late Colonial North India—, written in 2015 by one Venkat Dhulipala and book-reviews thereof. There is a potential article to be written about the book but this is not it.

The book has been subject to harsh criticism from a variety of quarters but not unsurprisingly, Dhulipala believes all of them (Faisal Devji, Barbara D. Metcalf, Yasmin Khan, and Manan Ahmed Asif) to be in the wrong and peddling half-truths, lies and distortions. In summary, we are looking at a ~~revolutionary~~ fringe work - if it were not, the concept might have stood a chance of being notable in itself.TrangaBellam (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article barely talks about "New Medina" and almost all the sources are "background" except for the one book mentioned by OP. Obvious WP:OR. --RegentsPark (comment) 17:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RegentsPark, the creator even got a DYK of the article. A ridiculously ahistorical line—Pakistan was envisioned as the New Medina to be used as a staging point for the conquest and Islamisation of India, similar to the conquest of Mecca by Muhammad—was featured on the Main Page for a good 24 hours, based on a primary source. A case is to be made for why all DYKs related to Indian history/politics shall be advertised on WT:INB before passing to main page. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do they even read the article before slapping a DYK on it? Yes, we need to have a system of checking DYKs before they get posted. God knows what sort of stuff gets publicized there. --RegentsPark (comment) 13:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A BEFORE search brings nothing about this. Uh, this is without foundation: Allah's "secret design" for Pakistan WP:FRINGE. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: None of the sources here, as far as I see, really discuss or establish the notability of "New Medina" Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' The article barely talks about "New Medina" and almost all the sources are "background" except for the one book mentioned by OP. Obvious [[WP:OR]]. --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 17:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 :*[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]], the  creator even got a DYK of the article. A ridiculously ahistorical line—{{tq|''Pakistan was envisioned as the New Medina to be used as a staging point for the conquest and Islamisation of India, similar to the conquest of Mecca by Muhammad''}}—was featured on the Main Page for a good 24 hours, based on a primary source. A case is to be made for why all DYKs related to Indian history/politics shall be advertised on WT:INB before passing to main page. [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam|talk]]) 07:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
+*::Do they even read the article before slapping a DYK on it? Yes, we need to have a system of checking DYKs before they get posted. God knows what sort of stuff gets publicized there. --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 13:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Delete:''' A BEFORE search brings nothing about this. Uh, this is without foundation: '''Allah's "secret design" for Pakistan''' [[WP:FRINGE]]. --[[User:Whiteguru|Whiteguru]] ([[User talk:Whiteguru|talk]]) 02:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Delete:''' None of the sources here, as far as I see, really discuss or establish the notability of "New Medina"  [[User:Deathlibrarian|Deathlibrarian]] ([[User talk:Deathlibrarian|talk]]) 10:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)