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Created by a single purpose editor. Looks like an advert, and the sourcing I found is mainly PR like stories. The industry recognition hardly adds to notability. Fails WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Software, England, and Australia. LibStar (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I cleaned up the article a bit, removed unsourced sections and primary sources. Company is covered by Gartner. The sources is a press release as Gartner reports are only available for a fee, but the fact that Gartner had covered them should be considered as one good citation. The company was also in Deloitte Technology Fast 50. In addition, The Australian Financial Review has 2 articles on them. Any COI issues should be addressed outside AFD.Bikerose (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the AFR coverage is actually OK, but it's just one source – we need multiple sources to satisfy NCORP. Apart from the AFR, there are a few promising pieces (SmartCompany being a representative example) but they're all ultimately too reliant on information from company spokespeople to be properly independent. There's a bit of coverage in region-specific sources (e.g. New Zealand, Orange, and Coventry newspapers) that take the angle "company brings jobs to region", but again these reports rely too heavily on these spokespeople and don't provide independent analysis. I don't necessarily agree Gartner coverage contributes to notability; I would need to see what specific coverage is relied upon. Deloitte Fast 50 is a clearly trivial source.

It's closer than many businesses to passing NCORP, but it's not yet there. In the end, the version of this article put up for deletion was so grossly promotional and undersourced that we're not losing much by deleting it. – Teratix ₵ 14:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+*'''Delete''' the AFR coverage is actually OK, but it's just one source – we need multiple sources to satisfy NCORP. Apart from the AFR, there are a few promising pieces ([https://www.smartcompany.com.au/startupsmart/news/phocas-software-20-years-bootstrapping-45-million-vc-funding/ SmartCompany] being a representative example) but they're all ultimately too reliant on information from company spokespeople to be properly independent. There's a bit of coverage in region-specific sources (e.g. New Zealand, Orange, and Coventry newspapers) that take the angle "company brings jobs to region", but again these reports rely too heavily on these spokespeople and don't provide independent analysis. I don't necessarily agree Gartner coverage contributes to notability; I would need to see what specific coverage is relied upon. Deloitte Fast 50 is a [[WP:ORGTRIV|clearly trivial source]].
+:It's closer than many businesses to passing NCORP, but it's not yet there. In the end, the version of this article put up for deletion was so grossly promotional and undersourced that we're not losing much by deleting it. – [[User:Teratix|Tera]]'''[[User talk:Teratix|tix]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Teratix|₵]] 14:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)