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Standoff at Eagle Pass

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WP:NSUSTAINED, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:SENSATIONAL: This topic is way too early (brief bursts of news coverage) and geographically limited to be considered for its own article, and even if it was, Wikipedia is not a newspaper and this article is making a far bigger deal (sensationalist) out of a otherwise limited event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashersel (talk • contribs) 00:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, United States of America, and Texas. Shellwood (talk) 00:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree; this is one of the most notable events of Operation Lone Star, which has its own Wikipedia article. I'd say that this merits an article of its own. WorldMappings (talk) 00:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hard disagree, this is a notable enough event as it's a state that defying the Supreme Court orders. Vextium (talk) 00:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Interesting perspective. I think it is not geographically limited, given that almost all the current Republican Governors have pledged their support to the State of Texas in this dispute, and further some are sending aid or National Guardsmen. Further, the U.S. Supreme court has touched on this case. Would appreciate your thoughts in response. Thank you Firepengu (talk) 00:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 January 26. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Disagree: It represents a bigger issue currently going on in the United States and it's something that could quickly become much uglier. Far less significant events have Wikipedia articles as well. Ye9CYNMD (talk) 00:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Disagree, this should not be deleted Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• Hold or even temporarily close this per WP:RAPID: "As there is no deadline, it is recommended to delay the nomination for a few days to avoid the deletion debate dealing with a moving target and to allow time for a clearer picture of the notability of the event to emerge ...". I'd support merging at this exact moment, but it's hard to tell how that will change over the next seven days of the standard AfD runtime. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 00:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

As the creator of the page, Hard disagree. As the article notes, an armed standoff between federal and state forces in regard to the immigration crisis is unprecedented in modern American history, and could lead to serious consequences. WP:NOTNEWS isn't a ban on covering recent events, it's a ban on trivial matters and writing articles like a newspaper would. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 00:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hard disagree. Texas' malcompliance with the Supreme Court on its own should make this event fairly notable. The fact that 25 other Republican governors signed onto a joint statement eliminates WP:GEOSCOPE. Sources are cited enough to the point where this doesn't fulfill the niche of WP:NOTNEWS. Operation Lone Star and the razor wire saga have been covered for weeks at this point, and while they may not be front-page news, they are still news items nonetheless, eliminating WP:NSUSTAINED. WP:SENSATIONAL may be a genuine problem, but it can most definitely be resolved through continuous page revision. There is no need to delete the article at this time, in my opinion. VoidDiamondz (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hard disagree: an armed standoff between state and federal governments is a notable event. Journob (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hold - I disagree that the claim of geographically limited, but I agree on it being too early to have an article about. No matter what high court rules or state governors support, at the end of the day this is disgruntled old men fighting over access to a small piece of land. Article should be either merged or deleted if nothing happens, but it's too early to be calling for a deletion now. 5.42.77.223 (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)