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*::If that is the case, shouldn't all of them get hit by the AfD hammer, then? I don't fully understand, the FCC recognizes it's existence, (if it didn't, then problems with the stations and the [[FCC]] would occur) but how notable it has to be then, soes it have to be updated with a ''notable'' source every week or so? Month? ''YEAR??'' How far do we have to go in the AfD counter for Television? This case if making my mind get so confused. [[User:Mer764Wiki|<span style="color: darkred">mer764</span>''KCTV5'']] (He/Him | [[User Talk: Mer764Wiki|'''t''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Mer764Wiki|'''c''']]) 04:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
*::If that is the case, shouldn't all of them get hit by the AfD hammer, then? I don't fully understand, the FCC recognizes it's existence, (if it didn't, then problems with the stations and the [[FCC]] would occur) but how notable it has to be then, soes it have to be updated with a ''notable'' source every week or so? Month? ''YEAR??'' How far do we have to go in the AfD counter for Television? This case if making my mind get so confused. [[User:Mer764Wiki|<span style="color: darkred">mer764</span>''KCTV5'']] (He/Him | [[User Talk: Mer764Wiki|'''t''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Mer764Wiki|'''c''']]) 04:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::@[[User:Mer764Wiki|Mer764Wiki]] A station is notable if it meets the [[WP:General Notability Guideline|General Notability Guideline]], that is, a minimum of 2-3 independent, reliable secondary sources covering the station in depth. [[User talk:Mach61|Mach61]] 05:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
*:::@[[User:Mer764Wiki|Mer764Wiki]] A station is notable if it meets the [[WP:General Notability Guideline|General Notability Guideline]], that is, a minimum of 2-3 independent, reliable secondary sources covering the station in depth. [[User talk:Mach61|Mach61]] 05:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::Hmmm, doesn't work that well for low-power stations. Okay, well, at least Cospaw ''tried'', and now he knows. [[User:Mer764Wiki|<span style="color: darkred">mer764</span>''KCTV5'']] (He/Him | [[User Talk: Mer764Wiki|'''t''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Mer764Wiki|'''c''']]) 05:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Weak delete''': That the station's launch did merit an ''Erie Times-News'' article is better than most all-diginet LPTVs get regarding coverage, but the problem is not about its reliability as a source — it's more that [[WP:SIGCOV|we need more than that]]. We've tightened our inclusion standards in this topic area since 2011, especially after the [[Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(media)/Archive_2#Status|2021 RfC]] that established that there was no consensus for there being any more lenient notability guideline than the GNG. FCC licenses may be relatively rare, but for our purposes they still only really establish [[WP:ENN|existence, which is not notability]]. As Mach61 pointed out, this is not even close to being the first LPTV to be sent to AfD in recent times — the floodgates are already open here. '''[[User:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">WC</span>''<span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span>'']]''' [[User talk:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">☎</span>]] [[Special:Contribs/Wcquidditch|<span style="color:#999933">✎</span>]] 22:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Wcquidditch--> |
* '''Weak delete''': That the station's launch did merit an ''Erie Times-News'' article is better than most all-diginet LPTVs get regarding coverage, but the problem is not about its reliability as a source — it's more that [[WP:SIGCOV|we need more than that]]. We've tightened our inclusion standards in this topic area since 2011, especially after the [[Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(media)/Archive_2#Status|2021 RfC]] that established that there was no consensus for there being any more lenient notability guideline than the GNG. FCC licenses may be relatively rare, but for our purposes they still only really establish [[WP:ENN|existence, which is not notability]]. As Mach61 pointed out, this is not even close to being the first LPTV to be sent to AfD in recent times — the floodgates are already open here. '''[[User:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">WC</span>''<span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span>'']]''' [[User talk:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">☎</span>]] [[Special:Contribs/Wcquidditch|<span style="color:#999933">✎</span>]] 22:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Wcquidditch--> |
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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Pennsylvania. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- ...I have no idea about this, I assume, KEEP. Like, it has an article with its sign-on and it's from The Erie Times-News. Isn't that an reliable source and shows that it's notable, no? It's reliable since the TIMES-NEWS HAD REPORTED ON IT. It's quite rare for stations for stations to even get an LICENSE to the Federal Communications Commission, to get an transmitter, to have studios (until 2019) and other stuff. Like what RingTailedFox said, TV Stations licensed by a government is notable. Otherwise, a lot of low power stations are going to be in the AfD chopping block soon. mer764KCTV5 (He/Him | t • c) 14:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. it's a TV station, even if it's defunct. Those are fairly rare due to the limited number of channels/frequencies in a particular area. Not just anyone can fire up a transmitter... A TV station licensed by a government, be it full power or low power, is by definition, notable. If not... then are we going to start nominating all sorts of television stations in smaller cities next? RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 13:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- @RingtailedFox There is no inherit notability for TV stations, and articles about them (especially low power stations) are deleted all the time. Mach61 20:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- If that is the case, shouldn't all of them get hit by the AfD hammer, then? I don't fully understand, the FCC recognizes it's existence, (if it didn't, then problems with the stations and the FCC would occur) but how notable it has to be then, soes it have to be updated with a notable source every week or so? Month? YEAR?? How far do we have to go in the AfD counter for Television? This case if making my mind get so confused. mer764KCTV5 (He/Him | t • c) 04:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Mer764Wiki A station is notable if it meets the General Notability Guideline, that is, a minimum of 2-3 independent, reliable secondary sources covering the station in depth. Mach61 05:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm, doesn't work that well for low-power stations. Okay, well, at least Cospaw tried, and now he knows. mer764KCTV5 (He/Him | t • c) 05:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Mer764Wiki A station is notable if it meets the General Notability Guideline, that is, a minimum of 2-3 independent, reliable secondary sources covering the station in depth. Mach61 05:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- If that is the case, shouldn't all of them get hit by the AfD hammer, then? I don't fully understand, the FCC recognizes it's existence, (if it didn't, then problems with the stations and the FCC would occur) but how notable it has to be then, soes it have to be updated with a notable source every week or so? Month? YEAR?? How far do we have to go in the AfD counter for Television? This case if making my mind get so confused. mer764KCTV5 (He/Him | t • c) 04:58, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @RingtailedFox There is no inherit notability for TV stations, and articles about them (especially low power stations) are deleted all the time. Mach61 20:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete: That the station's launch did merit an Erie Times-News article is better than most all-diginet LPTVs get regarding coverage, but the problem is not about its reliability as a source — it's more that we need more than that. We've tightened our inclusion standards in this topic area since 2011, especially after the 2021 RfC that established that there was no consensus for there being any more lenient notability guideline than the GNG. FCC licenses may be relatively rare, but for our purposes they still only really establish existence, which is not notability. As Mach61 pointed out, this is not even close to being the first LPTV to be sent to AfD in recent times — the floodgates are already open here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC)