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1876 FA Cup final

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my third (and probably last, at least for the time being) nomination of an article on a Victorian FA Cup final. One of the most striking things about this one was that one factor in the losing team losing was that several of their key players were missing due to "other commitments". Can you imagine some of the Man City or Man United players this year saying "well, I'm terribly sorry boss, but I can't possibly play in the FA Cup final because I am busy that day"? :-) Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and most swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • File:1896_FA_Cup.jpg: the tagging in use requires that the image description specify the research undertaken to attempt to identify the author
    • @Nikkimaria: the author of what, the trophy itself? Presumably that would be the person/people who actually made it? According to the National Football Museum and various other sources (both online and books), it was made by a silversmithing firm called Vaughton's of Birmingham, but none of them give any details of the individual specific craftsperson/people who worked on it. Even the company which bought out Vaughtons 30 years ago don't list this information. Some sources say that former footballer Howard Vaughton "was commissioned to make the trophy", but as he was a director of the firm I don't think we can take that wording as concrete proof that he was the one who literally physically made it. I have added all this to the Commons page.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Nikkimaria: - upon some further delving, I found an image which is PD (published in 1889) and has the advantage of depicting the actual trophy awarded in 1876 rather than a later replica. Please let me know if this one is OK -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • As File:Cricket,_WG_Grace,_1891-_Kennington_Oval.jpg is hosted on Commons it needs a tag for status in country of origin. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14

  • In the semi-finals the Wanderers defeated the Swifts -- comma after semi-finals
  • but the Etonians equalised with a -- worth linking to equaliser (sports) as it the term seems to have an article.
  • while the Etonians' team included Hon. Edward Lyttelton and his brother Hon. Alfred Lyttelton and Albert Meysey-Thompson and his brother Charles. -- I think a comma is needed after Hon. Alfred Lyttelton
  • As of the 21st century it remains the only FA Cup final -- comma after century
  • The Telegraph reporter praised Quintin Hogg -- I think for consistency - it should also be The Daily Telegraph as you have used throughout the article
  • Following their equaliser, the Etonians had the better of the play -- I would link the term in this instance in the body
  • According to the Daily Telegraph's report, -- According to The Daily Telegraph's report,
  • There continued to be free kicks awarded to both teams for handball. -- perhaps this can be tweaked to maybe Free kicks continued to be awarded to both teams... or something along those lines.
  • That's all I got. Great work as always. Pseud 14 (talk) 13:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose review from Z1720

Non-expert prose review

  • "The Wanderers had won the Cup" maybe "The Wanderers won the Cup"? This is your personal preference and will not influence my support
  • "The Etonians were forced to make a number of changes" -> to make several changes to their roster
  • "and the revised team was no match for the Wanderers,": "no match" might be going into MOS:CLICHE territory. What about "causing the revised team to be defeated 3–0." It also shortens the sentence
  • "which had first been codified in England in 1863." I'm not convinced that this is needed, and it confused me if the 1863 date was referring to the Cup or the Association.
  • "The final also took place at Kennington Oval." Delete also
  • "for an FA Cup final up to that point." Delete up
  • "to the extent that when Frederick Maddison took a corner kick" -> and when Frederick
  • "by the defending of Francis Birley and William Lindsay." William Lindsay links to a disambiguation page, which should be corrected.
  • "Neither team could manage to score another goal, however, and the game finished with the scores level," Remove however as it is not needed here.
  • "Yet more free kicks were" Delete Yet as it is unnecessary

Those are all of my comments. Z1720 (talk) 18:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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