Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/ToadetteEdit

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This new voting process ...

I'm thinking the "Support/Oppose/Neutral" sections should be put on a separate subpage that is fully protected until the vote opening date. Will prevent what happened with me on the future as ... I have not been keeping up with the new RFA guidelines since the proposals, and thus potentially made the first "mistake" during this new process since I just voted in the manner I have been for over a decade. 😫 Steel1943 (talk) 14:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Who would full-protect it for self-noms? The candidate ipso facto cannot protect the page. Besides, I'm pretty sure a decent portion of !voters are admins who wouldn't even notice the protection were we to enact it. My guess is we'll have a handful of mistakes for the first 3–6 months but, after that, should be fine. Sincerely, Dilettante 16:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dilettante: When the respective subpage is created, an admin-level bot could place protection on it, and then a bot could unprotect the page upon an appropriate timestamp 2 days later. Such protect-by-bot processes are already done in various other parts of Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Better option would just be to have a timestamped value that hides the voting until it opens, similar to how we have a timestamp for auto-closing. Primefac (talk) 18:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or even better (from my semi-Luddite perspective), just leave it as is. There are "do not vote here" messages, and if someone does anyway, just remove it. Floquenbeam (talk) 18:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, that works for me. Coding the auto-close was an absolute faff. Primefac (talk) 18:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bolded !votes in the general discussion section

I am not sure we should have bolded support, oppose, or even not yet comments in the general discussion section. I think it defeats the purpose of having a general discussion period before the actual !voting. CC @Deepfriedokra and Intothatdarkness. Best, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 16:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absent guidelines, I followed a prior example. Doesn't matter to me either way, but I do find it helpful in terms of highlighting a specific concern or reason for feedback. Intothat darkness 16:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, HouseBlaster. It does rather seem to go back to how things were minus an actual vote. And then, come the !voting period, I suppose we'll have two lots of bolded votes. I don't see that helping to highlight anything. ——Serial Number 54129 18:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think they've withdrawn?

See the most recent post on their talk page. —asparagusus (interaction) ^sprouts! 18:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am confirming with them now. Primefac (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closing as WP:SNOW or WP:TOOSOON

According to note #3 at WP:RFA, the two day discussion period excludes "those closed per WP:SNOW or WP:NOTNOW". Who determines an RFA meets that criteria, Bureaucrats? S0091 (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]