Draft talk:Revolutionary Communist Party (UK, 2024)

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RCP and conflict of interest

Something I recently became aware of is that anyone with an "external relationship" with the RCP may have a conflict of interest (COI), for which wikipedia has a policy. Exactly what counts as an "external relationship" to a political organisation is not entirely clear - eg whether it would relate to members only or also to supporters. There's a vague explanation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#What_is_conflict_of_interest? Maybe someone can clarify?

Editing an article if you have a conflict of interest is strongly discouraged by wikipedia. I think instead its recommended to request an edit on the talk page of the article and declare conflict of interest.

It seems that in creating an article the process is different, in that it will be submitted to someone independent before being approved, so people with a COI can edit the draft before it is submitted for creation. Hewer7 (talk) 11:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

For this article to be accepted for publication by wikipedia it will need to be considered to meet the notability policy. As stated at the top of the draft article page "The sources should be (1) reliable (2) secondary (3) independent of the subject (4) talk about the subject in some depth. For some topics, there are alternative criteria." The prospect article quoted seems to best meet that requirement. Here are others I found

The Fiona Lali (RCP member) debate with Suella Braverman on GB News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThJBLscn1Y T also her debating on Talk TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF3zHuB_NSE from around 30.30 to 45 with 25k views The GB News debate has been covered in the Middle East Monitor: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240518-pro-palestine-student-calls-suella-braverman-a-war-criminal/ The GB News debate was also covered in UK national daily newspaper the Daily Express: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1900492/suella-braverman-gb-news-palestine-debate The national daily newspaper the Telegraph covered activity of local RCP members in Wales (countering a claim that the organisation is just websites in Alan Wood’s shed) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/27/jacob-rees-mogg-chased-off-campus-pro-palestine-activists/ (I think this is already used in the draft article)

A newspaper in Cambridge also reports on local activity as well as the national launch of the RCP: https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/back-to-the-future-revolutionary-communist-party-gets-cambr-9361089/ Gov.uk has a transcript of a senior government minister, Michael Gove, claiming that the RCP is antisemitic (which the RCP refutes): https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/secretary-of-states-speech-on-anti-semitism. It is claimed that this is a trivial mention, I disagree.

International coverage on Al Jazeera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzT7bT2lays Hewer7 (talk) 11:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Some of the above are not considered reliable sources (GB NEWS, TALK TV and the Daily Express). Others, such as the Telegraph are considered more reliable but minor mentions However,I think that taken in the round, they demonstrate that a broad range of media, including many hostile to it, have recognised the RCPs existence and impact, indicates notability. That some are unreliable sources for detailed information is not relevant in the context of the notability of the RCP, in my view. However it will be the view of whoever reviews the article once submitted that counts. Hewer7 (talk) 12:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should this be published already?

It's been a while since the draft was completed and it meets the notability criteria now. Genabab (talk) 17:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]