Template talk:Vertical header

Problem with sortable tables that include "Vert Header" template[edit]

FYI: For some reason if a table is sortable and has "Vert header" then the sorting is broken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_kata#Kata_performed_in_various_styles

NevilleDNZ (talk) 23:05, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

- Fixed... used the stp=1 option.

NevilleDNZ (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's intentional. After tinkering with different positions for the sorting arrows, I decided that no padding should be added to the right side of the cells — only upwards and only if necessary. However, since I can only set inline CSS for these headers, I can't make a simple, universal rule for whether, how and where the arrows are displayed, and there's no other reliable way to tell whether or not a column is supposed to be sortable or not from within the module that powers this template, so the user has to specify it instead. Since the default state of a table is to be unsortable, I set (and reinforced) unsortability as the default, which makes the stp parameter mandatory for sortable columns. I avoided the possibility of having a sortable column without arrows, which would confuse readers. — Andreyyshore T C 13:11, 29 Oct 2018 (UTC)

Header text readable from top to bottom. Or at an angle[edit]

User:Andreyyshore. Thanks for the template. Would it be possible to have a parameter to make the header text readable from top to bottom like this:

H
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a
d
e
r

Or maybe like some of the 45 degree slant examples in these articles:

--Timeshifter (talk) 17:32, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Header	Two-line example

You're welcome. writing-mode: vertical-lr; text-orientation: upright would work fine in Chrome for stacked text; I'll have to do some testing when I have more time, as that might affect compatibility with some browsers. ~~Also notice how the first one is "underlined" to the left when you hover over it?~~nevermind

Maybe slanted headers should be implemented in a separate template/module, but I'll look into it. I imagine this creating huge problems in older versions of IE. — Andreyyshore T C 12:44, 29 Oct 2018 (UTC)

(unindent). Thanks. I just installed Chrome. It is working in Chrome, but not in Firefox or Explorer. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

cellstyle parameter request[edit]

@Andreyyshore: Great template. The current style parameter applies to the div with the text. I would like to also have a cellstyle parameter for the whole cell, e.g. for a background color if a table like 2018 ATP World Tour#Titles won by player is changed to use the template. A style= before the template is ignored because it adds its own style=. Consider the below example where "Singles" does what is currently supported and tries an ignored style=. "Doubles" makes an ugly unstable hack by tagging cellstyling onto va=bottom. I haven't used this hack in practice and don't want to. "Mixed doubles" has the code I would like to produce the same result as "Doubles". I don't know Lua but could probably guess how to do it – or maybe break the module. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Singles	Doubles	Mixed doubles

Andreyyshore has added the requested cellstyle parameter. Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Sorry for taking so long; I was on a wikibreak, only making a few minor contributions lately. — Andreyyshore T C 12:22, 29 Oct 2018 (UTC)

Tooltip[edit]

I made great use of this template here. Vertical headers are a space saver but a headache to read, though. Notice I used {{h:title}} to give a tooltip on unlinked headers. How about adding a tooltip option to this template/module? (Or even making it default!). Cheers. Guarapiranga (talk) 23:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vertical Header Glitching on Mobile Device[edit]

When I look at the 2020 United States Presidential Election table I notice the table glitches. This occurs on my mobile device. The vertical headers appear blank for over 15 seconds. In some cases I have to click on them to get them to appear. It makes it hard to read and it’s annoying. Can someone please resolve this? Pentock (talk) 01:52, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Can this template be made to show refs (here, for instance)?

Also, if I add flags there, they show unrotated. What's the best way to circumvent that? Cheers. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 05:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to discourage vertically oriented ("sideways") column headers in tables[edit]

I have initiated a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Tables#Proposal to discourage vertically oriented ("sideways") column headers, to may interest contributors to this article. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:15, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]