Talk:Ape

why are apes black?

anwser please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.225.188 (talk) 01:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Orangutans are orange. A better forum for questions such as these would be the science reference desk.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 01:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Apes cannot swim

the Wikipedia page about swimming says that. Isn't that interesting?--teakhoken89.15.87.21 (talk) 20:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

After thinking about it... maybe they can, but they have to learn it? Like the humans (who are apes, too). I still think it is interesting.--TeakHoken89.14.9.161 (talk) 13:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

hominoids

Why is hominoids linked to apes? It's a total different species. ape is not a taxa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.145.79 (talk) 15:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The article explains the terminology. Aleta ^Sing 15:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.145.79 (talk) 21:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

merge

I whole-heartedly think this should be merged with great apes, objections, agreements? Iamanadam (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Object. Great ape is family Hominidae. Ape is superfamily Hominoidea, which in cludes both Hominidae and the lesser apes (the gibbons) Hylobatidae. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Graphical correction

Hi, I'm trying to substitute in the article this graphic :

File:Penis

... with this other one :

File:Police officer

... because in the second one you can see a mention to Penis to the Police Officer subtribes ( important groups ) . But someone always reverts the change .

Can I know what's wrong with the second graphic ? Thanks . --Faustnh (talk) 12:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't match the text. The text only mentions the splitting of Hylobates into 4 genera. do you have a date when the subtribes were added to the tree? - UtherSRG (talk) 07:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Littered article

I was bold enough to litter the section Cultural aspects of non-human apes, with template:obscure. The reason is the following: the facts may be correct, but as regards to why "humans" aren't "apes" according to human language, it blarghs! A pattern like "a butterfly is not a fly" is the inverse of "a human is not an ape". In truth a butterfly is not a fly, but is called a such, on the other hand, in truth a human is an ape (especially me), but is not called a such! The patterns don't match, so the section speaks irrelevantia in order to "explain". Said: Rursus ☻ 07:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it is probably not the best-written paragraph ever... Perhaps the article should simply acknowledge that 'ape' in its most commonly accepted use is a colloquial, not a taxonomic term for denoting any member of Hominoidea other than humans. The implicit pretension that the word 'ape' has, or should have, exactly the same vigour as the scientific, Latin term is a little pedantic i.m.o. Iblardi (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)chido