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== el mapa == |
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The range map shows the historic (rather than the prehistoric Pleistocene) range of the lion as including Spain, Portugal, southern France, Italy, and much of western Asia as far north as the Caucasus region. I am aware of the presence of lions in ancient Greece, and in some parts of the Middle East during antiquity. However, thetttt julo is gay in the other northern regions (as shown in this map) during historic times is inaccurate. |
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Does anyone have any source that shows otherwise? This webpage makes the claim that the lion inhabited those areas (in a later section), but does not give any source. The "European Lion" wikiarticle gives only one source claiming lions inhabiting those regions during historic times. However, it is a website on ancient Greek coins rather than an informed source (.http://rg.ancients.info/lion/lions.html). It only addresses the lion's range in passing in a single sentence and has no references or sources. |
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<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.246.125.24|96.246.125.24]] ([[User talk:96.246.125.24|talk]]) 01:09, 17 December 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:: Changed the range in Southern Europe to question marks in response to controversy on reliability of sources. |
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--[[Special:Contributions/188.221.198.220|188.221.198.220]] ([[User talk:188.221.198.220|talk]]) 20:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Lions hunting a Buffalo == 8------------------------------------------)dick |
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Shouldn't we use the following picture from commons to illustrate lions hunting buffalos in Botswana? |
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[[Image:Lions_hunting_Africa.jpg|thumb|Lions hunting buffalos in Okavango Delta, Botswana]] |
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[[User:TSBr|TSBr]] ([[User talk:TSBr|talk]]) 14:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:Oh that's a nice image. I'll try to incorporate it. [[User:Alphard08|Alphard08]] ([[User talk:Alphard08|talk]]) 09:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== heads == |
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The "heads" section had this text: |
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:Cave paintings of extinct European Cave Lions exclusively show animals with no head, or just the hint of a head, suggesting to some that they were more or less headless;[28] however, females hunting for a pride are the likely subjects of the drawings—since they are shown in a group related to hunting—so these images do not enable a reliable judgment about whether the males had heads. The drawings do suggest that the extinct species used the same social organization and hunting strategies as contemporary lions. |
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This uses a circular reasoning: a) the cave lion paintings show animals without heads, however these were probably paintings of hunting lions, so they must be female, as with contemporary lions only females hunt; b) since the pictures depict only females, it is proof for the same social organization as contemporary lions. -- As can be seen, if a) fails, b) fails as well. It may be headless males hunting, for all we know. Also, the whole "however" is without citing sources, and chunky, the cave paintings do not show groups of lions hunting, but just individuals. Also, that last sentence has no place in a section called "heads". For these reasons, I removed the whole "however (...)" part. [[User:Jalwikip|Jalwikip]] ([[User talk:Jalwikip|talk]]) 20:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:: ''''Agreed''', I would hardly consider a cave painting to be an accurate depiction/reference to an animals physical characteristics or hunting behavior. I am rather annoyed at myself for not catching it. '''<font color="004730 " face="comic sans ms">[[User:ZooPro|Zoo]]</font><font color="FFD200" face="comic sans ms">[[User talk:ZooPro|Pro]]</font>''' 21:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== Proposal: Remove all "National symbols of XX" Categories == |
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And instead attach them to [[Lion (heraldry)]] or [[Cultural depictions of lions]], depending on the circumstances. --[[User:Kevlar67|Kevlar]] <small>([[User talk:Kevlar67|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kevlar67|contribs]])</small> 03:30, 16 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== Semiprotection == |
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Seriously, this article will ''always'' cop alot of vandalism. The real problem with articles this size is when it gets hit by a couple of IPs in a row and someone reverts the second vandal. It's a huge article and trying to clean up a year or so down the track can be frustrating. Okay, it's getting reverted now pretty promptly but this will continue ''every day'' (not sure about school holidays though) and sooner or later there'll be a hiccup. We had to clean up [[Humpback whale]] a couple of years ago with huge chunks of text gone bye-byes. Yes it's only one click to revert, but aren't there a truckload of things to revert? I have this idea that if there were less reverting needed, recent change patrollers would slow down a bit and maybe we'd get more done. Unfortunately editor time is a precious resource. cheers, [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 23:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks yes more time seems to be spent on reverting then actual editing, i welcome the protection. [[User:ZooPro|<font color="#004730" face="Papyrus">'''Zoo'''</font>]][[User talk:ZooPro|<font color="#FFD200" face="Papyrus">'''Pro'''</font>]] 00:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Heartily agree. My devandalization work here is approaching 50% of my time, especially as regards pages about "cute and cuddly" animals, like Red Panda, Tiger, and so on. And we haven't even mentioned the Ape and Elephant articles. Lion was protected for a year, and as soon as the protect was lifted just days ago, the kids went to work. It wouldn't break my heart to see dozens of mammal articles protected in perpetuity. After all, we do have ''real'' work to do. --[[User:Seduisant|Seduisant]] ([[User talk:Seduisant|talk]]) 00:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC) |
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::I agree we should protect the cute and cuddly articles. [[User:ZooPro|<font color="#004730" face="Papyrus">'''Zoo'''</font>]][[User talk:ZooPro|<font color="#FFD200" face="Papyrus">'''Pro'''</font>]] 00:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC) |
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Lions are legitimate animals and they should be feared...for they can kill you. ALIVE