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== Christmas-themed DYK ==

I thought I'd give a heads-up here to a discussion at [[Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Christmas_DYK]]. DYK has proposed having a [[Christmas]] theme on December 25, and relaxing the rules on when creations/expansions of Christmas-related articles took place to allow more articles on this topic to qualify. This is similar to the recent Halloween theme and an April Fool's theme earlier this year. Other users have suggested that this is biased, as [[Hannukah]], [[Kwanzaa]], and the [[Islamic New Year]] all fall during the week of December 25 (Hannukah actually overlaps), but articles about those topics would be excluded from DYK inclusion on the 25th or would not be subject to the same relaxed rules. More voices would be welcome at the discussion to determine a consensus. [[User:Karanacs|Karanacs]] ([[User talk:Karanacs|talk]]) 18:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

: Then have a Hannukah+Kwanzaa+Islamic New Year+Christmas-themed DYK ''week''. Happy Holidays! --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 19:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
*:MerryHappykwanzahannukah.....ah scrap, can't remember that Cell Phone Company slogan.....--[[User:293.xx.xxx.xx|293.xx.xxx.xx]] ([[User talk:293.xx.xxx.xx|talk]]) 11:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::i agree. do a mix of all them to avoid bias. it would look much more 'international' that way too [[Special:Contributions/99.238.19.139|99.238.19.139]] ([[User talk:99.238.19.139|talk]]) 19:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

International my ass! If you want to do it international, also include a [[Sinterklaas]] theme (there are more dutch people then jews on this earth so sinterklaas would be more suitable then Hanukah would). [[User:Jouke Bersma|J.B.]] ([[User talk:Jouke Bersma|talk]]) 12:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
: So go work your ass off to get some [[Sinterklaas]]-themed DYKs onto the main page, [[User:Jouke Bersma|J.B.]] --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.19.69|74.14.19.69]] ([[User talk:74.14.19.69|talk]]) 17:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Why all the image swapping for TFA? ==

Yes, the triforce. It's still PD and ineligible for copyright? Why swap or remove it so many times when it is apropos? '''<span style="background:Blue;color:FireBrick">&nbsp;[[User:Marlith|<font color="Orange">Marlith</font>]][[User talk:Marlith|<font color="Orange"> (Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span>''' 05:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:See [[Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/November 21, 2008#Image]]. --[[Special:Contributions/76.64.76.189|76.64.76.189]] ([[User talk:76.64.76.189|talk]]) 06:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

=== Yellow triangles ===

Why are there a set of yellow triangles beside today's FA? The image is not mentioned at all in the text, and is not even included in the article itself. Illustrations on the mainpage should illustrate the text, not intrigue the reader. Please can someone remove the image.--[[User:Scott MacDonald|Scott MacDonald]] ([[User talk:Scott MacDonald|talk]]) 14:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

: The three triangles are the logo of the Zelda franchise. I think they're most relevant non-copyrighted images that they could find.
: They appear (partially obscured) on this particular game's box art. [[:Image:ZeldaOoTbox.png]] (On the shield.) [[User:APL|APL]] ([[User talk:APL|talk]]) 15:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::Perhaps. But since they are not on the article or mentioned in the text, they are confusing and not illustrative.--[[User:Scott MacDonald|Scott MacDonald]] ([[User talk:Scott MacDonald|talk]]) 15:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Can we keep this discussion in [[Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/November 21, 2008#Image|one place]]? [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 15:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, the image of the triforce will confuse people who are unfamiliar of the subject at hand. '''<span style="background:Blue;color:FireBrick">&nbsp;[[User:Marlith|<font color="Orange">Marlith</font>]][[User talk:Marlith|<font color="Orange"> (Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span>'''
::: Marlith, can we keep this discussion in [[Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/November 21, 2008#Image|one place]], please? --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 19:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Who could not know what "Zelda" is? It is one of the most faboral games next to "Mario".[[User:Firio|Firio]] ([[User talk:Firio|talk]]) 19:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't know what Zelda was before now. I just read the blurb to find out. '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#082567">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:#FFBF00">C</span>]]</sup> 00:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:I have a great aunt named Zelda - but I gather she's not what you are talking about. --[[User:Blake the bookbinder|Blake the bookbinder]] ([[User talk:Blake the bookbinder|talk]]) 15:53, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::We had a TFA on your great aunt? l33t [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 12:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
You should have a TFA on [[Pier Gerlofs Donia]] or, maybe later when it passes GA, on [[Touch the Clouds]]. Please look into that. [[User:Jouke Bersma|J.B.]] ([[User talk:Jouke Bersma|talk]]) 12:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::If you want an article to be TFA you need to nominate it at [[WP:FAC]] [[User:Dark verdant|Dark verdant]] ([[User talk:Dark verdant|talk]]) 13:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Title of News Article ==

I think, the news article on the Indian Mood Probe is improperly labelled. It currently says "The Moon Impact Probe, released by Indian spacecraft Chandrayaan-1, is successfully crashed into the lunar south pole", whereas the proper way of framing the sentence should be "Successfully landed on the Lunar South Pole" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.240.41.69|24.240.41.69]] ([[User talk:24.240.41.69|talk]]) 06:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This has been discussed above: the probe did not land, as that implies a controlled event that does not damage the object. The probe crashed or impacted - it just smacked into the ground at a high velocity. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 15:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:Indian Mood Probe? What does that do? Sounds interesting. Too bad I already have an account ... it would make a great username. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 15:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, its improperly labelled, good you noticed! Now notice this: I've got me a kewl signature thanks to OllieFury and Bilby! <font face="Arial Black"> [[User:Jouke Bersma|<font color="728B22">Jouke]] [[User talk:Jouke Bersma|<font color="FF8000">Bersma]] <sub>''[[Special:Contributions/OllieFury|<font color="1B88EE">Contribs]]''</sub></font></font face color> 11:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:There is a discussion above regarding whether it was an impact/crash or if it landed. Also this is not a forum nor for advertisement. Please keep discussion about errors or imporvements to the main page. [[User:Dark verdant|Dark verdant]] ([[User talk:Dark verdant|talk]]) 13:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== LANGUAGES ==

There is a Wikipedia version in Interlingua, its main page link is:
http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principal
Why is Interlingua not in the "Language" box on te left in the english main page? Esperanto is there. It should go between # Hrvatski and # Íslenska. Is there a logic for its exclusion? Could you correct this mistake please? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.108.120.162|69.108.120.162]] ([[User talk:69.108.120.162|talk]]) 20:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_FAQ#In_what_order_are_the_other_Wikipedias_displayed.3F_Where.27s_my_language.3F See FAQ] --[[User:Siradia|Siradia]] ([[User talk:Siradia|talk]]) 22:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Meta? ==

This may not be the place to report this, but why does it say "Support Meta" in the fundraising banner? Did it somehow get mixed up? [[User:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">Litho</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#464646">derm</FONT></b>]] 01:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:And it's back to saying Wikipedia now. Never mind. [[User:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F">Litho</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Lithoderm|<b><FONT COLOR="#464646">derm</FONT></b>]] 02:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
::The banner crashed on Wiktionary a couple of days ago. As well as being ugly, it's apparently buggy. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 17:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== I Can't See It ==

On my computer I can't see the main page at all. <u><font face=tahoma>[[User:Danielaustinhall12|<font color=blue>'''Danielaustinhall'''</font>]][[User talk:Danielaustinhall12|<font color=gold>'''12'''</font>]]</font></u> <small>(Go [[Michigan Wolverines|Wolverines]]!)</small></font> 16:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:It's still there. Have you tried [[WP:BYPASS|purging your cache]]? [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 17:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== TFA Suggustion ==

Where could I suggust an article for TFA? "Under the Bridge" was an article I came across today and it looked pretty nice. It hasn't been a TFA as of now so maybe it could be used in the near future. Just a suggustion if someone is ever at a loss. [[User:AMM The Great|AMM The Great]] ([[User talk:AMM The Great|talk]]) 02:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:You are looking for '''[[WP:TFA/R]]'''. Cheers. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] [[User talk:Zzyzx11|(Talk)]] 02:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article Today ==

This is a minor issue, but the featured article about Harvey Milk, while interesting, is the subject of a film to be released shortly. Unfortunately, after reading the abridged version on the front page I now know what happens in the film. Stupid, I know, but I'd rather not know the ending to films I'm interested in seeing before they come out. In future, perhaps you could wait until after film releases before providing more information. I'm aware that Milk is an established name, but he is not known in England. [[Special:Contributions/78.86.151.128|78.86.151.128]] ([[User talk:78.86.151.128|talk]]) 19:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:SPOILER]] [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 19:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hiding TFA==
How do I hide the "Featured Article Today" section? I just don't want to look at it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.183.166.91|67.183.166.91]] ([[User talk:67.183.166.91|talk]]) 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Try out some of the versions on [[Main Page/Alternatives]]; if you find one you like, bookmark it. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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