Talk:Obesity

Evolutionary psychology

See [1]. While there is something similar in the genetics section, it is not exactly the same. The genetics sections talks about specific ethnic groups. The EP argument is more general and not limited to a specific group. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 15:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the genetics section could be expanded to also include the more general argument? Miradre (Talk E-mail) 15:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

This article is an overview. Feel free to add it to the Genetics of obesity subpage. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:26, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with a few lines on the suspected evolutionary mechanisms of obesity, but evolutionary psychology is a highly unscientific approach to phenomena. To understand why certain behaviours pose an evolutionary advantage, you need to ask your local fat man lol known as GABRIEL GOODRICH level of knowledge about the selective environment that is simply not available to us. JFW | T@lk 19:32, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you do not. For example, you can make predictions about novel phenomena based on your evolutionary theory and if these are confirmed your theory is strengthened. Just like for other sciences. Thus, there were predictions based on some variants of the thrifty gene hypothesis that were not confirmed. I will be expanding that article shortly and maybe then update this article also. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 19:42, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good, just make sure you stick with review articles. Cheers Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Just to make clear, the source was a textbook/handbook and thus a secondary or tertiary source. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 08:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Done. Corrected the description of the theory which was incorrect. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 15:49, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

This is not about diabetes?Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:57, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

As noted the theory is now more general. The version you restored is also grossly factually incorrect. The theory is not primarily about ethnic groups. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 00:19, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Why is DIABETES mentioned. This page is about obesity? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:34, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, in the interest in of historical accuracy. But we can fuzz over that and only describe the current version if you prefer. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 00:35, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

This article is not about the history of the thrifty gene hypothesis but how it relates to obesity. Also please use review articles in the last 5 years.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

That was the last review article by creator and long-term researcher of the theory. But if we are not interested in the history we likely do not need it. The other article is also a review. Note the previous version was factually incorrect. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 00:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes agree. And have changed the wording. Is it better now? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Much of the previous material regarding this theory in Wikipedia seems to have been written/heavily edited by some advocate of low-carbohydrate diets and was largely factually incorrect propaganda pieces. The Pima indian material is a minor detail and does not belong in an overview. It should also be mentioned that there are now several alternative theories formed in response to criticism of the theory. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 00:54, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

So what do you propose we do to improve it? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:47, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the long delay in responding. Made some improvements to the text. Miradre (Talk E-mail) 08:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Too early, but interesting

"New research links common RNA modification to obesity" -- http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111017155622.htm -- Jo3sampl (talk) 21:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

New 2011 review article on management

[2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:26, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Another Interesting Paper: Hormons against weight loss ;-)

Long-Term Persistence of Hormonal Adaptations to Weight Loss http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1105816 --Fisch4Fun (talk) 13:38, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

When it's reached a secondary source, yes. JFW | T@lk 23:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Chart of BMI Classification Is Incorrect

The BMI classification chart does not account for those between 24.9-25.0 BMI, 29.9-30.0, 34.9-35.0, 39.9-40.0. I recommend that greater than or equal to and less than or equal to symbols are used to account for all BMI ranges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamora723 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Death in the EU

In the "mortality" section, this article states that "while 1 million (7.7%) of deaths in the European Union are attributed to excess weight."

How is this possible? According to Wolfram Alpha, there are 5 million deaths in the EU. So either the number is less than 1 million or the proportion is more than 7,7%.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=annual+death+in+the+EU

87.96.234.6 (talk) 18:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Good catch. It should be Europe not European union. Have changed to reflect the ref in question.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)