Talk:1923 Atlantic hurricane season
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Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 04:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Additionally, the October tropical depression was previously recognized as a tropical storm until reanalysis in 2009" - "the" gives the impression you've talked about it before. Change to "an"
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Just two days another" - Wrong word.
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "a weak tropical depression formed from the tail end of a dying cold front" - Link cold front.
- Done--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The storm clipped the southeastern Louisiana" - Remove "the" or add "coastline" at the end.
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Excessive rains fell in the vicinity of the cyclone and farther up the East Coast of the United States" - No impact info?
- I couldn't find anything more than beneficial rainfall in the South, especially the Carolinas--12george1 (talk) 04:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "This storm was first introduced to HURDAT in a 2009 reanalysis of the basin." - The basin wasn't reanalyzed, the season was.
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The cyclone curved east-northeastward early on September 28, around the time that it strengthened into a Category 2." - Categories aren't nouns. "Around the time it strengthened into a Category 2 hurricane" or "around the time it attained Category 2 intensity."
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "falling to Category status while passing northwest of Bermuda." - what category?!
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Can you add historical context for Hurricane Six crossing from the EPAC to the ATL? That's a rare occurrence.
:*I know that the article previously stated that Hurricane Six was the first example of a cyclone crossing from the Pacific to Atlantic basin, but that's not true according to this--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind, I fixed this problem--12george1 (talk) 04:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Now moving quickly north-northwestward, the storm fell tropical depression status on October 17" - Missing a word.
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "High winds downed numerous of signs" - Eh?
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "while sections of Brookyln experienced coastal flooding, particularly at Greenpoint[21]" - I need a period, stat!
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Reference 24 is dead.
- Fixed--12george1 (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Good otherwise. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 04:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Comments from Usernameunique
[edit]Looks like I was beaten to the punch here, but I'll drop the comments that I had intended on making below regardless. My main takeaway was that the article is in generally good shape, but that the lead needs some work. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I finished the review, checked my watchlist, and saw your ongoing edits to the page. I figured you had started a review. I'm so sorry! TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 19:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- No worries, TropicalAnalystwx13—totally my fault for not "claiming" the review before getting started. And in any event, there's no loss in having extra sets of eyes look at an article. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Lead
- The first few sentences should be a summary of the season. The first sentence in particular is both odd and lackluster; it describes only a minor part of the season, and doesn't summarize anything actually in the article. Instead, you could use the first sentence to describe a) the number of storms, and b) the date range of the season.
- I guess it would be better to open by talking about something that did happen, rather than something that didn't--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Most of the information in the lead isn't in the body of the article; why is this?
an October tropical depression was previously recognized as a tropical storm until reanalysis in 2009, while two other tropical storms were added to the Atlantic hurricane database that year.
— The 2009 demotion is noted in the article, why not the promotions?
- I fixed it to mention which storms were added in 2009 - Tropical Storm 1 and Tropical Storm 3--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Even reading the lead last, I find it confusing. Part of the problem is that it's trying to both add and summarize information at the same time. Also, paragraph 2 introduces four storms, after which it quickly becomes difficult to figure out which one is being discussed, after which it seemingly moves onto entirely different storms.
Systems
- You might want to make the image an svg since the resolution isn't great, but not necessary for the purposes of this review.
- Are you talking about the bar graph thing? That's not an image--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Tropical Storm One
the southeastern Louisiana ... over extreme southern Mississippi and Alabama
— I think the wording is off here.
- I had already done this--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- What's an extratropical low?
- Linked to extratropical cyclone--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
This storm was first introduced to HURDAT
— Whatdat?
- Changed it to "Atlantic hurricane best track" and added a link--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Hurricane Four
The storm caused little damage in Newfoundland
— The source doesn't seem to say that.
Hurricane Five
falling to Category status
— Looks like there's a missing number.
- I had already done this--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
The hurricane caused ... slight impact
— This should probably be rephrased.
- I'm not sure what's wrong about this--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Hurricane Six
the storm fell tropical depression status
— fell to tropical?
- I had already done this--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
October tropical depression
- Why no illustration? Same comment for the June tropical depression.
- It's not an unusual practice for us to not add illustrations for tropical depressions this far back. Typically, coordinates for those systems are only at 24-hour intervals, in contrast to the 6-hour intervals for systems that reached at least tropical storm intensity. The tracks made are based on 6-hour intervals. Secondly, I don't think weather maps are available for those systems--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
equivalent to a Category 1 hurricane
— So why is it classified as a depression?
- It didn't have tropical characteristics at that time. It probably had more resemble to a nor'easter than a hurricane--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Why the 2009 reanalysis? Is there anything more in the sources about that?
- There have been a few attempts at thoroughly researching historic tropical cyclones to determine their actual intensity and discover cyclones that may have gone unnoticed either at the time or in previous research, but the 2009 reanalysis of this season is the most recent and considered official. It will probably be a long time before there's another look at 1923 because the reanalysis team finished the first half of the 1960s last year--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Tropical Storm Nine
was first observed
— How was it observed?
- Records from ships--12george1 (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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