Talk:2006–07 UEFA Champions League knockout stage

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I think that this pagewould look good with some tournament brackets. Kingjeff 20:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a specific template for this, right? Also, the Lille-ManU first leg description (or lack of it) doesn't give the match justice :D --Howard the Duck 11:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there is. Kingjeff 15:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this page does not need tournament brackets, that will look stupid and messy

Then might as well remove brackets from all season/tournament articles, LOL. --Howard the Duck 06:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed bracket: {{UEFA 16 ||Porto|2|Chelsea|3 ||Valencia|2(a)|Inter|2 ||Barcelona|2|Liverpool|2(a) ||PSV Eindhoven|2|Arsenal|1 ||Roma|2|Lyon|0 ||Lille|1|Manchester Unitd|2 ||Celtic|0(aet)|Milan|1 ||Real Madrid|4|Bayern Munich|4(a) ||Chelsea||Valencia| ||Liverpool||PSV Eindhoven| ||Roma||Manchester United| ||Milan||Bayern Munich| }}

Someone has to eliminate the lines connecting the round of 16 to the quarterfinals, though. --Howard the Duck 09:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lines don't have to be removed. The bracket should be made when we know where the teams go. Kingjeff 15:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the r16 & QF teams are drawn separately like the ones at the NFL & NHL that's there shouldn't be line. --Howard the Duck 16:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But the lines look better. It just won't be the same without lines. Kingjeff 16:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC) a[reply]

it'll imply that the winner of che-por would automatically meet the cel-asnl winner when they won't. ----Howard the Duck 16:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But that's irrelevent. The fact is it could still be done with the lines. It won't look good with all the matches all over the place. NHL Seasons articles still have their lines. Kingjeff 16:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it IS relevant; there's no connection bet. R16 & QF. At 2006 Stanley Cup Playoffs look at the bracket bet. the QF & SF. ----Howard the Duck 16:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a connection. Or else the quarter-final match-ups wouldn't happen. Kingjeff 17:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But the mathups arent connected to one another. we might as well retain the order for R16 then the QF matchups' order will be different.----Howard the Duck 17:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fact is the draw tomorrow will make those Round of 16 matches connected. Kingjeff 20:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

so will the that the winner of che-por would automatically meet the cel-asnl winner?----Howard the Duck 01:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. That's why we can't use the template. Or else I would had it up a month ago. Kingjeff 01:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

so the lines connecting R16 & QF should be removed.----Howard the Duck 01:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. With any bracket, Lines or no lines, you have to wait for the last draw. 1st Leg home teams must go on the top spot and the 2nd leg home team must go on the bottom spot. You just can't start a bracket when there are draws involved. There is a great possibility that the bracket you made will not be in the same order after tommorow's draw. Kingjeff 02:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's the whole point, the matchups of the Round of 16 aren't automatically connected to the QF ones; like in the NFL and NHL, the teams are reseeded at the second round. --Howard the Duck 15:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The table is ready to use now. I put all the match-ups in the appropriate places. Kingjeff 16:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this is the correct bracket, further emphasizing the point that the lines between R16 and QF be removed:

UEFA doesn't have a standard for brackets. Kingjeff 16:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC) {{UEFA 16[reply]

Because UEFA doesn't use brackets. And the R16 and QF matchups aren't automatically connected, it's unlike the NBA Playoffs where the 1-8 matchup meets the winner of the 4-5 matchup for the next round. In this case, the R16 Chelsea-Porto winner doesn't automatically meet the Celtic-Milan winner. That's the reason why the lines connecting R16 and QF teams should be removed, just like the reason why the NHL and NFL brackets aren't connected on their first 2 rounds. --Howard the Duck 17:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand what the lines mean. The fact is the lines connect opponents, not match-ups. Even if there were no lines, it would still have to be my way. Kingjeff 21:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lines connect matchups, and nothing else. If they connect opponents, then the first rounds of the NFL and NHL brackt templates must have lines connecting them to the second round (they currently don't have any lines connecting the 1st round to the 2nd round).

The winners of the first round are not in anyway automatically connected to what team they will face for the succeeding round. So for example, the FA Cup will be completely devoid of brackets since they are not connected and are known via draw.

Also if a bracket will be added, IMHO I'd still eliminate the line connecting R16 and QF or show the bracket from the QF onwards. --Howard the Duck

The way you're talking, you would need 8 of these brackets

	Finals

and 1 of these bracket.

Quarterfinals

Semifinals

Final

This is the only way to do what you want. You can't get around it any other way. Even if there is no lines. Kingjeff 17:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We can get rid of the 2-team-bracket since the quarterfinal summary section does just that. --Howard the Duck 09:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{UEFA 16 ||Chelsea|3|Porto|2 ||Celtic (aet) |0|AC Milan|1 ||PSV Eindhoven|2|Arsenal|1 ||Manchester United|2|Lille|1 ||AS Roma|2|Lyon|0 ||Liverpool|2|Barcelona |2 ||Real Madrid (a)|4|Bayern Munich|4 ||Inter (a)|2|Valencia|2 ||Chelsea | |Valencia| ||PSV Eindhoven| |Liverpool| ||Roma| |Manchester United| ||Milan| |Bayern Munich| }}

--Howard the Duck 16:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NO BRACKETS!!!!!

ANOTHER HEADS UP![edit]

for the last time its "De Rossi" NOT "de Rossi"!

the Finals section[edit]

i think the Finals section shoudl be included, making a main article for the finals is absolutley pointless

Links to reports don't take you to the correct page[edit]

Some of the links (I haven't tried all of them, but one example are those for the Milan - Man Utd semi-final matches) only take you to the current version of the UEFA webpage. Maybe use a different source, such as The Guardian, for example? Sameoldcabbage (talk) 06:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]