Talk:Agriculture in Wales/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 14:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll have this to you soon, but if you want I could wait if you're in the middle of expanding this? Only from what I saw on the talk page JAGUAR  14:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Initial comments

• "and tourism has become an important form of income in the countryside" - would it be worth linking Tourism in Wales in here?
• "Arable crops and horticulture are limited to southeastern Wales" - link horticulture
• "the Welsh Marches, the northeastern part of the country" - link Welsh Marches (as it is already linked in the body)
• "Eighty percent of the country is classified as being in a "less favoured area"" - "Less Favoured Area" is capitalised in the overview in the section but not in the lead nor the image caption. Needs consistency
• "This consists of the Vale of Glamorgan, Monmouthshire, the Welsh Marches, Flint and Denbighshire" - surely Flintshire? It's linked to flint, the stone!
• "The mild Atlantic climate with predominantly westerly winds give the country a high rainfall that reaches 80 in (203 cm) or more in the uplands" - needs clarification, is this a specific area of uplands or is it just higher ground in general?
• "In 1801, the population of Wales was 0.587 million" - would it be better read as 587,000?
• "half of whom lived in Glamorgan and Monmouthshire" - link Glamorgan (the historic county)
• "Much of the land was in the hands of large landowners" - sounds a tad unencyclopaedic. How about something like was in the possession of large landowners or was largely in the possession of landowners
• "There were 945 arable and horticultural holdings" - might sound better as There were also 945 arable and horticultural holdings, so the reader still knows that this is as of 2014
• "and herded on foot to be fattened in England for selling at English markets" - in English markets
• "On the Welsh farm they were used to pull ploughs" - just one Welsh farm?
• I strongly recommend cutting down one image as it messes up with the format of the article
• No dead links
• No dab links

This article is very well written. I'll leave this on hold until all of the above are clarified, or if you plan to expand it a little (from what I saw on the talk page), I'll be happy to wait longer. JAGUAR  15:05, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I believe Cwm intends to add a fair bit more on this before it passes GA. To give the bonus 150 points on top of the 100 for passing it will need to be broader researched than currently. I would expect at least double the sources and a fairly sound summary of the different types of agricultural practices in Wales by section first (with summaries and main|Sheep farming in Wales etc linked, though the article is already taking shape nicely and she's made a fine start!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Jaguar. I nominated it for GAN because I thought it might take some time before anyone took up the review, but you were so quick! I have dealt with the points you raised above, but if you can wait a couple of days before finishing the review, that will give me time to add a bit more along the lines Dr Blofell has suggested. I have left the images alone for the moment, because they will be diluted by any text I may add. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

No problem, I'll wait a couple of days before looking through this again. I fear that I might have reviewed this a bit too quickly, but I was initially unaware that there was a possibility of it being expanded! JAGUAR  21:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I reckon I have finished now, and several other people have made contributions. So over to you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the expansion! Looks amazing now, definitely GA quality. I've gone through the additional text and couldn't find anything that would impede this review, so I'll pass it now. It is well written, comprehensive and well sourced. Good work! JAGUAR  21:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's now at the minimum standard for what I'd expected on such an article and now has most of things I'd expected to see. It could still be markedly improved with more depth on agrarian history and examples of farming practices across Wales and changes over time, but it is now deserving of the points. Good job and congrats on being the first to promote one on the GA bonus list!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:38, 3 April 2016 (UTC)