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This is the program of Henry Clay; for the philosophy of the American School or System of economics as originating in the theories of Hamilton and practiced in the United States from 1861-1932 and with reform from 1932-1973 follow this link: American System. --Northmeister 03:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THIS PAGE HAS RECENTLY BEEN VANDALISED AND MOVED WITHOUT CONSENT. THE EDITOR, WILL BEBACK SHOULD CEASE AND DESIST IN HIS ACTIONS, DONE WITHOUT AGREEMENT. --Northmeister 00:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why created?[edit]

This page was created to direct readers to Henry Clay's specific program entitled the "American System" that developed from the Hamiltonian economic principles that Clay and the Whig Party embraced and not to be confused from the broader American System or School economic philosophy that describes the Hamiltonian economic theory as practiced in the United States and elsewhere under the names "National System", "Protective System" etc. --Northmeister 03:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only "American System" of economics is that created by Henry Clay. This is a POV fork and should be deleted. If you want to create an article about a different topic, like the purported "American School", then its title should reflect its subject. -Will Beback 05:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That is your view. If you want to propose deleting Henry Clay's American System program, go right ahead. You have constantly failed to realize that the other article titled American System (economics) is a general article about the American System economic philosophy rooted in Hamilton's theories that the US practiced from 1861-1932 under the GOP, that was also called by List the "National System" etc. It is entirely appropriate in academia to have branch subjects of a larger subject, and researchers here typing in American System will be taken to a link allowing them to find the specific plans of Henry Clay and the theory as well of the Hamiltonian American System/School that dominated nineteenth and twenthieth century American economiv practice. So says Lind, Gill, and many others. --Northmeister 05:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If that article is about the "National System" of Carey then let's movce it to that title. There is only one American System, that of Clay. -Will Beback 05:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No that is not true. The America System, and National System are one and the same on philosophical grounds and interchangeable. YOu can change the title to American System (Henry Clay) to shorten it, but there should be a link redirect, so that those searching, either the American System name, National System, Protective System should be taken to same point. Again, I am not going to fuss over your name change, though I almost did; as they are one and the same... --Northmeister 06:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VANDALISM[edit]

This page has been vandalised and moved without discussion and without consensus. Will Beback you must stop your uncivil behavior. --Northmeister 23:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AGAIN POV PUSHING[edit]

User Willbeback is in violation of Disrupting Wikipedia to make a point ie WP:DISRUPT, on a set of articles he broke arrangements not to edit, because of his contentious past. --Northmeister 03:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's talk about this at Talk:American System (economic system). -Will Beback 07:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Let's stop the stalking and abusive behavior - and let's read the sources I've already provided before making statements about original research and other nonsense. I've moved the material to that page (even though it was already covered there as a part of the overall system) at the request of another editor. I do not accept your definition of that other article and do not accept your constant intrusion into my edits. STOP - that is wiki-stalking and disruption. --Northmeister 15:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]