Talk:East Asian blepharoplasty

We'd need more clarification and evidence if we want to measure changing single-fold appreciation.

There was a sentence to the effect "Asian single-fold eyelids are becoming increasingly appreciated" with a citation. I am removing the citation and the sentence for two reasons. First, it is not clear what the sentence is meant to convey. That is - who was not appreciating the eyelids before, and is appreciating them more now? Are we talking about appreciated by everyone in the world (is there some global bias against single eyelids?) ? Appreciated by people in more postindustrial, interconnected countries? By asians with single-eyelids who would have otherwise had blapheroplasted? By asians with natural double-eyelids as if they look down on those with single-eyelids? Appreciated by Westerners whose exacting beauty standards might have otherwise led asians in Europe and the United States to get blepharoplasty?

If any of these are the case, that some bias or pressure existed in the first place against single-fold eyelids (or even that many asians believe such bias to exist) that needs to be established. However we are measuring "appreciation" or lack thereof, we need to be able to confirm that there was less appreciation before.

Second, the citation referred to a blog post that mused on how the increasing presence of Asian single-eyelids on packaging graphics of Adobe photoshop may be reflective of changing Western acceptance of asian single-eyelids. It may be reflective, it may not be, but it is miles from sufficient evidence to establish there was previously a lack of Western acceptance before, that there is Western acceptance now, or even that there has been an increase in acceptance of the single-eyelid. However we are measuring "acceptance" (whether people rate it as attractive? Whether someone with a single-eyelid is more likely to get passed over for a promotion? How a single eyelid impacts people's perception of an individual? Break out some studies please.)

Unrealistic Western standards of beauty may possibly be at the heart of some of the Blepharoplasties which happen in the US and Europe. But before we provide an answer that they are or are not, and to what extent and why, we should take a keen interest in finding out (or confirming our suspicions of) what the answer is ourselves. --74.131.192.145 (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Photos?

Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a before/after photo, pointing out exactly what is modified? I followed the link and watched the video, but whenever they show a before/after sequence I fail to see any difference whatsoever that cannot be easily passed off as a facial expression, rather than the result of surgery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.179.69.80 (talk) 13:09, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: merging

Re: merging the epicanthoplasty with Asian Blepharoplasty. I agree it should be merged if the discussion is limited to the subgroup of epicanthoplasties specific for asians - correction of the asian epicanthal fold (epicanthus orientalis). This is an aesthetic operation.

There are four types of epicanthal folds: Type 1, epicanthus supraciliaris;Type 2, epicanthus palpebralis;Type 3, epicanthus tarsalis; and Type 4, epicanthus orientalis.

Epicanthus orientalis should be merged with Asian Blepharoplasty. The other three should not, and there should be a separate topic for epicanthoplasty or medial epicanthus, to cover the other categories. Asianplasticsurgery 00:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Epicanthoplasty is done on both Asians and non-Asians--however the reasons and methods are very different--consequently the topics should remain separate. —--Survresp 02:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the topics should remain separate. They are different procedures. —Lowellian (reply) 22:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The percentages are not found on the link

The statement involving 70, 60, and 30 percent of Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, respectively, having natural double-eyelids is not found on the link.

Consequently, I am removing it.Erik-the-red 12:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Bigger without the Fold

Is it possible to make Asian eyes bigger, without introducing a fold?--Timtak (talk) 03:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe if you surprise them. --Denise from the Cosby Show (talk) 06:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Contacts. NO, SERIOUSLY - contact lenses. Lots of people, Asian and non-Asian, with just-enough-to-pass-tests vision (something minor like -1.25, -0.75) actually squint for most of their days without noticing it. Having their vision corrected to 100% with contact lenses UTTERLY changes the look of their eyes and sometimes even the general facial expression and other people's perception of their looks. 68.183.124.21 (talk) 13:23, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Statistics from Korea

Not sure if these stats are correct:

• http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2007/11/korean-women-fixer-uppers.html

According to this source, 76% of Korean women between 20 and 30 have had some form of plastic surgery. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 07:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)