Talk:Battle of Nesjar

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The claim that Sveinn Jarl Hákonsøn was the vassal of Olof Skötkonung (the Mender) is not entirely wrong, but it is wrong to say this is a distinct feature of him. Everybody are vassals of Uppsala. Future Saint Olaf, now High King of Hringsakri son of Harald Grenske (of Grenland, Skiðasyssel) is just as much a Swedish vassal as Sveinn Jarl Håkonson. I feel that to claim that one is a Swedish vassal by holding a seat at the Thing at Uppsala give a misleading notion. Also King Olaf II Haraldson, according to Saga Ólafs hins Helga[1] - the Saga of Olaf the Saint - gained a particular seat at Uppsala after being acknowledged by the five Kings at Ringsakri. Sveinn Jarl is an earl of Hlade (Ladejarl. Sweden is still very much Uppsala. It seems plausible that the Viking raids start when these old tribute and trade structures of Northern Europe are abandoned with the rise of the French Roman Catholic feudalism associated with the novel violent christianisation following the Carolingian claim to being the righteous heirs to the Roman Empire. Roman Catholic Christianity appears as a novel form of Christian religious practice and world-view, whose older stratas have blended with regional, heathen practices and traditions, as well as claiming a European (Ennean) multi-cultural identity, claiming Hellenic and Roman descent, as well as a wider Indo-European, Finno-Ugric and Gaelo-Celtic (Scytho-Milesian) association. Olaf Skötkonung is the High King of Uppsala, comprising all the royal houses of Scandinavia, including the Earl of Aldeigjuborg (cf. Novgorod Republic), and probably all the Rus of Great Sviþjoð (Kiev Rus. Possibly even the Gaelic Norse peoples of the Isles (the future Bishopric and Earldom of Orkney), parted into the Northern and Southern Isles, Ireland and Scotland and Man, as well as Þjoðveldið, may have been represented at Uppsala, and paying tribute as in the old times (pre Anglo-French Viking Age), although it may have had a more symbolic form, or say featuring a pre-feudalist economy, since the epoch of the Viking Age (of Anglo-French historiography) and has quite obviously not been consistent. The Viking-raids is a consequence of the Anglo-French breaking away from the old tributary trade-relations prior to the rise of the Carolingan empire, the feudal unification of all English into a Kingdom of England, similar to the emergence of the Kingdom of Norway under Harald King Fairhair of Norway, contemporary, yet prior to King Æthelstan of England. In the Norse perception, Sweden is stretching all the way to the Black Sea. The five kings that his saga tells of elevated him as their high King, gave Olaf son of Harald Grenski and Asta access to a high seat at Uppsala. The Earls of Hlaðe have allied themselves with the Danish House of Knýtlinga, which may be said to have been more at odds with the younger Western European empire and the emerging Roman Catholic christendom. The Great Schism is yet to blossom.

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