Talk:Bonnyton, East Ayrshire

Bonnyton, East Ayrshire was nominated as a Geography and places good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 2, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Contradiction

In the leded it states "Previously a village in its own right, Bonnyton was subsumed by Kilmarnock during the towns period of rapid growth and expansion during the early to mid 1900s", however in the detail it states "Bonnyton became a part of Kilmarnock in 1871" and neither of these statements have any sources. Canterbury Tail talk 20:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bonnyton, East Ayrshire/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Relativity (talk · contribs) 02:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and I'll be reviewing this article against the GA criteria. I'll be getting to this within the next couple of days. ‍ Relativity 02:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Relativity, I saw you were looking for a second opinion. Did you want someone to do a full second review, or just to have a quick look? If it's just a quick look, I hesitate to agree on a QF here, because it looks to me that your biggest problem is that there are unsourced sections. But I'm not sure what kind of source you'd want for most of the transport section, which mostly says things like Bonnyton, and the wider Kilmarnock area, has no international airport. If you do want to insist on footnotes for this kind of thing, they'd be easy to find (a bus schedule would do for most of them), so I'm not sure it would be a "substantial amount of work". I'd be inclined to give the nom a chance to make edits to improve the article, myself. But that's from a quick skim of the article and your review. -- asilvering (talk) 05:59, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering Oh, no— I just meant that I needed a second opinion on whether I quickfailed or not. But thanks for checking in. ‍ Relativity 21:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Unfortunately, there are a lot of unsourced sections in the article, a lot of sections that aren't sourced to a reliable source, and a lot of parts where I'm questioning a piece of information's relevance. For the article to pass, it would take a substantial amount of work that couldn't be achieved easily. Keep up the good work, though, improving this article!

Feedback

Think you could reword the sentences that start with This led to such communities and villages and These large new housing areas in the History sentence? It's pretty close paraphrasing of [1] and it would just be much easier to clear criterion 2D if that was reworded
Same kind of thing in the Grange campus section with the sentence that starts with one of seven schools in Scotland that have been operating since 2012 (site in question is [2])
Same thing with the sentence that starts with The conversion project was in History (source: [3])
The first paragraph of the History section is not cited. That'll need one.
The first paragraph of the Andrew Barclay subsection is not cited as well.
The end of the fourth paragraph of the Economy paragraph isn't cited. Again, we need citations attached to anything that could reasonably be challenged
Last sentence of the Economy paragraph isn't cited
Last part of first paragraph of the Geography section isn't cited
That last table doesn't have a visible citation attached to it. If it's cited somewhere else, could you add that citation there?
No citation for the first paragraph of Transport
No citation for the third paragraph of Transport
No citation for the first paragraph (although it's really two sentences) of the sports section
Bonnyton is named as Bonnyton and Town Centre. (in the lead) Is it named that for the census collectors? Or is it named that in the article? Clarification needed.
I'm not sure how the last sentence of the History section is relevant, and it's source worries me since it's talking about the supermarket in language that sounds very promotional.
The entirety of the Andrew Barclay section is cited to a primary source. Is there any independent source that shows that the Andrew Barclay Railway Heritage Centre is notable? Why is the Drake 2086 relevant?
Yes, the heritage centre has been has been dubbed as "the cornerstone of the Barclay House development"— by the group that built it. That should be removed.
In the Economy subsection, there is a sentence starting with Popular fish and chip shop. How popular?
Also in that economy subsection, you cite Google Maps. In this case, you shouldn't because it doesn't show that the Bonnyton Industrial Estate is notable enough to be added to the article. Unless you can find a WP:RS that says that, that part about Bonnyton Industrial Estate should probably be removed.
Economics section— Mindat.org is not reliable because it's user-generated.
The thing about Thistle Cabs in the Transport section is cited to a primary source about Thistle Cabs.