Talk:Breakout (Miley Cyrus song)/GA2
GA Review
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Reviewer: HJMitchell You rang? 02:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, it looks pretty good. There are a few things that could do with being adressed though:
- General
- Is there a suitable image (preferably a CD cover) that could go in the infobox?
- DoneNo since it was never released as a single, it shouldn't have any image for the infobox. I know Katy Perry said something that referred to it as a single, but she was wrong. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 01:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Some of the grammar could use a slight copyedit, for example "due to not being released as a single" (in Chart performance) does not read as well as it could, likewise "Cyrus opened the 2008 Disney Channel Games with the premiere of "Breakout"; the event was held on May 4, 2008 in Orlando..."" (in chart performance)
- Chart performance
- Seems to contradict itself on the release as a download- can we get a release date and a ref?
- Sorry... but I don't really understand - could you explain? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- No worries, I think I meant the grammar was slightly unclear, but I've given the section a copyedit anyway. HJMitchell You rang? 03:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Done Yay!!! this is done too. Thank you. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 04:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Could (ideally) use an extra ref or two to make sure everything's verified if they can be found.
- T Done here are no more refs since the chartings were generally not too high. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Jumps from Billboard Top 100 to Hot Digital Songs- might be an idea to expand on how the two relate or to reword it
- Done Broke it up into "due to strong digital downloads; in the same week, 'Breakout' was placed at [...] on Hot Digital Songs" Is that O.K.?-- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- much better! HJMitchell You rang? 03:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Were Canada, Australia and the US the only countries where it was a top 100? Might be an idea to specify (or add more if it charted elsewhere)
- Done Yea those were the only charts... that's because it was not a single. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't specify which chart it spent 7 weeks on (I take it it's the US?)
- Done Correct - I specified it. :) -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Live performances
- "is also in the set list of her 2009..." will need updating since we're in 2010 now
- Done changed "is also in" to "was on" - maybe it wasn't clear that she's not touring anymore. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 01:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I expect this is just me being British and thick, but what the hell is a construction cart?
- Lol... I didn't know about this myself and I tried to look through Wikipedia to find the official term for it. It's those carts in which construction workers are elevated in order to build things. Here is a pic of her doing that in the next number from the set list. I referred to the prop as a construction cart there too and that one passed GA. Do you know any other term?? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 01:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see what you mean now. It looks like scaffolding but I don't know if they use that term on your side of the Atlantic? Anyway, I'm not going to fail it over that- focus on teh important stuff, we can deal with that later! HJMitchell You rang? 02:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Done I changed it to scaffolding since it is in my U.S. dictionary for Microsoft Word. Also is scaffoldings the correct plural term? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose so- scaffolding or scaffoldings works as the plural. HJMitchell You rang?
- Could do with less of the commentary and the minutiae that's not really suited to an encyclopaedia
- sorry... again explain. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, it seems better now, though I can't remember exactly what I meant. That said, were there any negative reviews? The reviews in the article are all quite flattering. HJMitchell You rang? 03:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Lol... for live performances I could only find those two and for Critical reception there was a bad one about how annoying it was, or something. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 04:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Some of the stuff on the clothes sounds like either fan commentary or OR- for example "an all leather ensemble" if you're getting bits like that from a source (assuming it's not Disney) put it in quotes, if not (or if it IS from Disney who obviously have a COI!) try to tone it down and keep it neutral.
- Done Ooh.. this was probably what the last reviewer was talking about. I put it as black leather tank top and hot pants.
- Also, info on the clothes generally is probably given undue weight- not a huge issue but some of it could do with a trim
- Done Removed clothing mention except for the premiere which was also used as a promotional music video and the tour. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'd suggest linking the cities- everyone knows Los Angeles, California, but how many people outside North America know Portland, Oregon?
- Done Linked. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 23:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Everything else seems to be in order, though if you could lay your hands on any more sources, it certainly wouldn't hurt! HJMitchell You rang? 01:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Wrapping it up (hopefully)
[edit]It's not taken long to address most of my comments above. Another look shows that some of the prose could still do with some work, for example:
- ""Breakout" received generally positive responses from contemporary critics. Chris William of Entertainment Weekly said that writer Gina Schock of The Go-Go's left influences from their hit single "Vacation" (1982).[6] William added that "Breakout" "just the right amount of maturing".[6] Mikael Wood of The Los Angeles Times called the song "a slightly tougher, more guitar-based sound than last year's Meet Miley Cyrus".[9] Bill Lamb of About.com said the song was one of the "top tracks on Breakout".[11] Heather Phares of Allmusic said the song's "school girl rebellion" was "designed to present the feisty, carefree Miley".[12]"
- You've got a series of very short sentences there that should be bashed in to just one or two ideally. There are other examples, but that's the worst
- I made several sentences into one. Is it O.K. how I did it? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 05:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- I'd like to see those less flattering reviews in the article, just for balance.
- I could find positive ones and one that said it was really noxious and only a knockoff of Avril Lavigne and that is there. One has some mixed feelings and says that there is no profundity in lyrics but has a good music composition. Doesn't that suffice? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 05:36, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Everything else looks good so, with a little work, this should pass without too much difficulty. HJMitchell You rang? 11:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm still not entirely happy. The prose could still do with some work- there are a lot of short sentences that could (and should) flow much better. Also, almost every sentence seems to start with "The song...". That said, I think the prose is the only real issue holding it back from GA status. HJMitchell You rang? 04:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- I did what I could do on all sections. Is it ready yet? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 07:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- right, I've gone through and given it a copyedit. I'm happier with the prose now, but I left a fact tag and two hidden comments in the article that will need sorting before I can pass it. Checklinks shows nothing concerning, so once those are addressed, I'm sure the article can be promoted. HJMitchell You rang? 18:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- lol. I like those hidden comments. Looking for them is fun. I think I addressed them. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 18:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Glad I can provide you with amusement! Haha! I'm happy with that. I'll promote it now! HJMitchell You rang? 18:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- lol. I like those hidden comments. Looking for them is fun. I think I addressed them. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 18:50, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- right, I've gone through and given it a copyedit. I'm happier with the prose now, but I left a fact tag and two hidden comments in the article that will need sorting before I can pass it. Checklinks shows nothing concerning, so once those are addressed, I'm sure the article can be promoted. HJMitchell You rang? 18:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)