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Not encyclopedic[edit]

The article as written doesn't strike me as encyclopedic. We don't need full bios of the entire GENIVI board of directors here. A lot of this stuff is marketing material that belongs on the GENIVI website, not Wikipedia. Hopefully someone can put a dent in this. I'll tag the article (as soon as I figure out what tag to use). Dave (talk) 16:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I even removed the full list since this is out of scope. mabdul 13:44, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GenIVI rebranded as COVESA[edit]

--160.46.252.41 (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request[edit]

I work with COVESA and will not edit the article myself. Instead, can I please request a few updates to address the notability and advertising concerns flagged at the top? This is designed to keep the article from being deleted, so it can be improved and expanded with better sources and more of an encyclopedic format and tone. Forgive the duplication of some sources. Refill should help with the bare refs.

1) Please remove the entire Structure section as unsourced and overly detailed for an encyclopedia article.2) Please rename Goals as Overview, and replace the unsourced info that is there now with this section: 

The industry alliance develops a common hardware and software architecture for system providers for the automotive industry. This includes Linux-based services, middleware and open application layer interfaces.[1]

3) Please add a History section with the following text: 

GENIVI was announced at CeBit 2019 as a new Open Source development platform for the auto industry.[2] Its founding members included BMW, Delphi, General Motors, Intel, Magneti Marelli, PSA Peugeot Citroën, Visteon and Wind River, and its goal was to jointly develop Linux-based infotainment software.[3] It was incorporated as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit organization.[4] The name GENIVI was a portmanteau of Geneva and IVI, which stood for in-vehicle infotainment.[5] In January 2016, the organization released an Automotive Grade Linux Unified Code Base distribution featuring GENIVI components, and announced new members including Ford, Subaru, Mazda and Mitsubishi Motors.[6] In October 2021, the organization renamed itself as the Connected Vehicle Systems Alliance (COVESA), to add an emphasis on the group's work with cloud computing and data exchange.[7] In October 2022, the group's work with vehicle operating systems and software platforms was reviewed, categorized and presented by researchers at the International Conference on Information and Communication Technology Convergence (ICTC).[8]

4) Please rename the Deliverables section as Projects, and use this text. The current info is too detailed and unsourced. When I have more time, I'll add more requests to restore only what is notable and properly sourced. 

The group's projects are divided into groups including the Common Vehicle Interface Initiative (CVII), the Android Automotive Special Interest Group (SIG), the Vehicle Payments Special Interest Group (SIG) and the Automotive Cybersecurity Team.[9] Notable projects include the development of vehicle signal specifications (VSS) including related APIs for vehicle signals and service catalogs,[10] as well as using service-oriented architecture to accelerate integration of new features into automotive systems.[11] The group also works with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Automotive Working Group, consisting of experts from vehicle manufacturers, suppliers, solution providers and researchers.[12]

5) Please remove the short Members section. If proper sourcing is found with the number of members, it will be requested to be added as part of the Overview section.6) The discussion should be allowed to continue until consensus is reached, but if the revised article is satisfactory (also knowing it will be improved over time with additional edit requests), please move the article to COVESA.

  1. ^ https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/CeBIT-2009-BMW-and-Partners-Found-GENIVI-Open-Source-Platform
  2. ^ https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/CeBIT-2009-BMW-and-Partners-Found-GENIVI-Open-Source-Platform
  3. ^ https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/CeBIT-2009-BMW-and-Partners-Found-GENIVI-Open-Source-Platform
  4. ^ https://lwn.net/Articles/510112/
  5. ^ https://lwn.net/Articles/510112/
  6. ^ https://linuxgizmos.com/automotive-grade-linux-releases-unified-ivi-spec/
  7. ^ https://www.telematicswire.net/genivi-alliance-rebrands-as-connected-vehicle-systems-alliance/
  8. ^ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/conhome/9952188/proceeding
  9. ^ https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/genivi-becomes-connected-vehicle-systems-alliance/
  10. ^ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/10014905
  11. ^ https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/9797838
  12. ^ https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/23/4/1763

TR??Wiki5 (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 16-AUG-2023[edit]

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  • Your edit request could not be reviewed because the provided references are not formatted correctly.[a] The citation style predominantly used by the GENVIVI Alliance article is Citation Style 1 (CS1). The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.[b] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1. (See WP:CITEVAR.) In the extended section below titled Citation style, I have illustrated two examples: one showing how the edit request was submitted, and another showing how requests should be submitted in the future:
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The Sun's diameter is 864,337 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 Kelvin.[3]

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2. http://www.journalsource.com
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In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the GENVIVI Alliance article. Using this style, the WikiFormatted text should resemble the following:

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The Sun's diameter is 864,337 miles,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.booksource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2020|page=1}}</ref> while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Harinath|first1=Prisha|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Science|issue=78|volume=51|url=http://www.journalsource.com|date=2020|page=46}}</ref> The Sun's temperature is 5,778 Kelvin.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.websource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2020|page=2}}</ref>

Which displays as:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 Kelvin.[3]

References

  1. ^ Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2020, p. 1.
  2. ^ Harinath, Prisha. (2020). "Size of the Moon", Science, 51(78):46.
  3. ^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2020, p. 2.

In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which shows the author, the source's name, date, etc., all information which is lost when only the links are provided. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests such as yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.

Kindly resubmit the edit request below at your earliest convenience, taking care to ensure that it makes use of CS1. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  Spintendo  22:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The fault for this formatting error may have originated with the automated prompts used by the edit request template, which asks for a COI editor to "supply the URL of any references used". While the resulting omission of information would not be the fault of the requesting COI editor, it nevertheless remains their responsibility to supply the references formatted in the style used by the article.
  2. ^ The use of bare URLs as references is a style which is acceptable for use in Wikipedia. However, general practice dictates that the style already in use for an article be the one that is subsequently used for all future additions unless changed by editorial consensus.[1]

References

  1. ^ "WP:CITEVAR - Wikipedia:Citing sources". Wikipedia. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 22 October 2018. Guideline: It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it.

Edit request[edit]

I work with COVESA and will not edit the article myself. Instead, can I please request a few updates to address the notability and advertising concerns flagged at the top? This is designed to keep the article from being deleted, so it can be improved and expanded with better sources and more of an encyclopedic format and tone. Forgive the duplication of some sources. Refill should help with the bare refs.

1) Please remove the entire Structure section as unsourced and overly detailed for an encyclopedia article.

2) Please rename Goals as Overview, and replace the unsourced info that is there now with this section: 

The industry alliance develops a common hardware and software architecture for system providers for the automotive industry. This includes Linux-based services, middleware and open application layer interfaces.[1]

3) Please add a History section with the following text: 

GENIVI was announced at CeBit 2019 as a new Open Source development platform for the auto industry.[1]https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/CeBIT-2009-BMW-and-Partners-Found-GENIVI-Open-Source-Platform</ref> Its founding members included BMW, Delphi, General Motors, Intel, Magneti Marelli, PSA Peugeot Citroën, Visteon and Wind River, and its goal was to jointly develop Linux-based infotainment software.[1]https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/CeBIT-2009-BMW-and-Partners-Found-GENIVI-Open-Source-Platform</ref> It was incorporated as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit organization.[2] The name GENIVI was a portmanteau of Geneva and IVI, which stood for in-vehicle infotainment.[3] In January 2016, the organization released an Automotive Grade Linux Unified Code Base distribution featuring GENIVI components, and announced new members including Ford, Subaru, Mazda and Mitsubishi Motors.[4] In October 2021, the organization renamed itself as the Connected Vehicle Systems Alliance (COVESA), to add an emphasis on the group's work with cloud computing and data exchange.[5] In October 2022, the group's work with vehicle operating systems and software platforms was reviewed, categorized and presented by researchers at the International Conference on Information and Communication Technology Convergence (ICTC).[6]

4) Please rename the Deliverables section as Projects, and use this text. The current info is too detailed and unsourced. When I have more time, I'll add more requests to restore only what is notable and properly sourced. 

The group's projects are divided into groups including the Common Vehicle Interface Initiative (CVII), the Android Automotive Special Interest Group (SIG), the Vehicle Payments Special Interest Group (SIG) and the Automotive Cybersecurity Team.[7] Notable projects include the development of vehicle signal specifications (VSS) including related APIs for vehicle signals and service catalogs,[8] as well as using service-oriented architecture to accelerate integration of new features into automotive systems.[9] The group also works with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Automotive Working Group, consisting of experts from vehicle manufacturers, suppliers, solution providers and researchers.[10]|title=XACML for Mobility (XACML4M)—An Access Control Framework for Connected Vehicles|first1=Ashish|last1=Ashutosh|first2=Armin|last2=Gerl|first3=Simon|last3=Wagner|first4=Lionel|last4=Brunie|first5=Harald|last5=Kosch|date=January 17, 2023|journal=Sensors|volume=23|issue=4|pages=1763|via=www.mdpi.com|doi=10.3390/s23041763}}</ref>

5) Please remove the short Members section. If proper sourcing is found with the number of members, it will be requested to be added as part of the Overview section.

6) The discussion should be allowed to continue until consensus is reached, but if the revised article is satisfactory (also knowing it will be improved over time with additional edit requests), please move the article to COVESA.

Thank you for your help. <span data-dtsignatureforswitching="1"></span>

References

  1. ^ a b c https🖉Wuelfing, Britta. "CeBIT 2009: BMW and Partners Found GENIVI Open... » Linux Magazine". Linux Magazine.
  2. ^ 🖉"GENIVI: moving an industry to open source [LWN.net]". lwn.net.
  3. ^ https:// name="auto"/>/Articles/510112/
  4. ^ 🖉Brown, Eric (January 5, 2016). "Automotive Grade Linux group releases unified IVI spec".
  5. ^ 🖉"GENIVI Alliance rebrands as Connected Vehicle Systems Alliance". October 6, 2021.
  6. ^ 🖉https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/conhome/9952188/proceeding
  7. ^ 🖉RFLc5LFRCite web|url=https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/genivi-becomes-connected-vehicle-systems-alliance/%7Ctitle=Genivi becomes Connected Vehicle Systems Alliance|first=Christoph|last=Hammerschmidt|date=October 6, 2021}}
  8. ^ 🖉Aust, Stefan (October 17, 2022). "Vehicle API and Service Catalog for Next Generation Mobility". pp. 418–423. doi:10.1109/WPMC55625.2022.10014905 – via IEEE Xplore.
  9. ^ 🖉Kenjić, Dušan; Antić, Marija. "Connectivity Challenges in Automotive Solutions". IEEE Consumer Electronics Magazine. 12 (5): 53–59. doi:10.1109/MCE.2022.3183807 – via IEEE Xplore.
  10. ^ 🖉{{Cite journal|url=https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/23/4/1763

TR??Wiki5 (talk) 01:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TR??Wiki5: It looks like you used Refill to fill in the refs, and it missed some. I'll go through later today and clean up the refs, and review the request. STEMinfo (talk) 11:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@TR??Wiki5: I made the changes, cleaned up the lead so it read better, and removed the advertising tag. I also tidied up the infobox, including removing the long list of names, to follow the WP:NOTDIR convention. I couldn't figure out why Refill didn't work better, but it might get confused with <nowiki> tags. Also, one of your links (ref # 6) was wrong, and once I put in the correct link, the tool worked. If this is kept, it can be moved to rename it (request #6), and this request can be marked completed. STEMinfo (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@STEMinfo:Thank you for your help and the additional cleanup you did. It looks much better now. Hopefully it will not be deleted. TR??Wiki5 (talk) 00:43, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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