Talk:Caernarfon (UK Parliament constituency)

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There seems to be some confusion about historic Parliamentary constituencies. Lloyd George represented the borough constituency, not the county seat. No doubt the pre-1950 Caernarvonshire and Caernarvon District of Boroughs both contained territory which is in the present Caernarfon, but the way this is conveyed at the moment is misleading.

The history of the Caernarvonshire constituencies seems to be as follows: -

To 1885: Caernarvonshire and Caernarvon.

1885-1918: Arfon, Eifion and Caernarvon.

1918-1950: Caernarvonshire and Caernarvon.

1950-1983: Caernarvon and Conway.

Subsequently the old Welsh counties were replaced as the basis for constituency boundaries and the official spelling of the Caernarvon constituency was changed to Caernarfon.

What usually seems to be done in constituency articles is just to provide links to before and after constituencies, but not to go into detail about them and the MPs they had. However in this case I supposed it is possible to consider that the Caernarvon borough seat is ancestral to the Caernarvon/Caernarfon county seat. It just needs a fuller explanation. --Gary J 14:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have sorted out the list of MPs, but I would say that it's preferable to spin off the Caernarvon District of Boroughs to its own article, given the prominence of one of its Members. David | Talk 19:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rather its the Caernarvonshire constituency that needs to be spun off as it was extant as a seperate entity from the sixteenth century until 1950, from the Caernarfon/Caernarvon Boroughs constituency. *Historical list of MPs shows the 2 seperate lists for both seats and is the most reliable source. Galloglass 18:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The overwhelming majority of the electorate of the 1950-2010 Caernarfon constituency previously voted in the Caernarvonshire constituency, while the overwhelming majority of the electorate of the 1918-50 version of Caernarvon Boroughs would end up voting in the new Conwy constituency after 1950: only Caernarfon town, Pwllheli and Nefyn transferred from Caernarvon Boroughs to Caernarfon. Notably in 1950 the incumbent for Caernarvonshire stood for Caernarfon while the incumbent for Caernarvon Boroughs stood for Conwy. Even considering the usual proud ignorance of geography displayed in Wikipedia articles on British parliamentary constituencies, this is a gross absurdity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.220.225.176 (talk) 13:06, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]