Talk:Canadian Standards Association
"Not uncommon" is among the worst of weasel words because not only is it a double negative, it's a double negative that doesn't even mean what it appears to mean. I doubt counterfeiting is common. It's more likely that counterfeiting is rare but present. I'm going to see if I can't find some hard data to determine how common the practice is.126.96.36.199 (talk) 20:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- I've followed all the sources I could, and gone as far as contacting CSA directly and asking. The CSA representative told me there is no public record of known counterfeits, so this doesn't seem like a verifyable claim. I'm going to change the wording to be more accurate. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Note: I added the stuff about CSA accepting UL test reports, but not the other way around, from my own experience as an electrical engineer -- we always got our products approved by UL first, then CSA, for exactly this reason. 184.108.40.206 02:56, 30 April 2005
Note: This entire page seems to be one giant propaganda leaflet from the CSA. The CSA is accountable to no one. The CSA has somehow managed to become a defacto governance body on all things HVAC and otherwise. The CSA refuses to adopt standards regarding new and innovative technologies from other international associations (i.e. Europe) and so the CSA is keeping Canada in the stone ages.
- Please cite references for this point of view. --Wtshymanski 19:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
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- 2 Content needed
- 3 Fair use rationale for Image:CSA c-us.png
- 4 Suggested edits to right-hand highlight box
- 5 Suggestion for new text to use in About section
- 6 Add a section - "Industries of Activity"
- 7 Add a Section - History
- 8 Edit a Pre-Existing Section - Standards Development
- 9 Add a Section - "Testing and Certification"
Reposting extensive sections of another web site's content without permission is a copyright violation. Rewrite the material in a proper, neutral, encyclopediac tone and leave out the cheerleading and self promotion found on in-house Web pages. "Just the facts, Ma'am" should be one of the Wikipedia mottoes. --Wtshymanski 19:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
This article is quite unsatisfactory. Can anyone provide any references other than the CSA Web site that talk about the history of the organization, and that evaluate its significance and compare it with other world standards-setting organizations? The CSA Web site is mostly just self-promotional cheerleading. Please don't cut and paste paragraphs from the CSA site. I've merged in the subsidiary organizations to get rid of a bunch of very stubby content-free articles. --Wtshymanski 21:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
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Removed references to QMI - QMI is no longer owned by CSA Group, March 11th 2008
Suggested edits to right-hand highlight box
Hello, we would like to suggest an update to the top right corner box with quick-facts about CSA Group, as well as the article title. "Canadian Standards Association" is the company's old name. The company has rebranded under the name CSA Group. Is it possible to have the article name changed, as well as the below updates made to the quick-facts box?
Tagline - Advancing Today. Anticipating Tomorrow.
Formation - 1919
Type - Not-for-Profit
Purpose - Standards development and product testing & certification
Location - 178 Rexdale Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario, Canada with offices and laboratories in the United States, Asia and Europe
- Asked an admin to move the page to CSA Group. Only the official website should be added per WP:EL. No taglines or mission statements will be allowed, as they're unencyclopedic. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Joseph2302 (talk) 16:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC) Partly done Changed the URL, added the locations, and changed the name to CSA Group. Not adding the rest though.
Suggestion for new text to use in About section
Hello, we would like to suggest replacing the current "About" text with the below. Please let us know if you have any suggested changes or tweaks. Thank you!
CSA Group is an internationally-accredited not-for-profit standards development organization and product testing and certification body with offices and testing labs in 16 countries. It has developed more than 3,000 standards, codes and related products in such diverse areas as healthcare, the environment and alternative energy vehicles. CSA Group is also a major testing and certification body, with its certification marks appearing on more than one billion products worldwide. CSA Group employs more than 1,600 professionals and approximately 8,000 dedicated volunteer members working on more than 1,300 standards development committees.
CSA Group is most commonly recognized for its registered certification mark which shows that a product has been independently tested by CSA Group and certified to meet recognized standards for safety or performance. CSA Group marks are widely accepted by code officials and authorities having jurisdiction (AHJ) throughout North America.
Add a section - "Industries of Activity"
We would like to suggest adding a section that explains the industries that CSA Group standards are active in. We believe this adds clarity to the scope of CSA Group's involvement in a wide range of businesses and workplaces.
CSA Group provides services to a wide range of commercial, industrial and residential industries, including the following:
- Appliances & HVACR
- Construction, Buildings & Infrastructure
- Energy & Resources
- Hearth & Grill Products
- IT & AV Technology
- Medical, Laboratory & Health Care
- Personal Protective Equipment
- Polymeric Materials & Adhesive-type Labels
- Power & Industrial Control
- Sports Equipment
- Tools & Gardening Equipment
- Wiring Devices & Cables
Add a Section - History
- January 1919 - officially registered as the Canadian Engineering Standards Association (CESA) as a volunteer committee in Ottawa under the direction of Sir John Kennedy to develop standards that would help Canada move forward as an industrialized nation and advance the technology of the day.
- 1920 - CESA publishes, Specification for Steel Railway Bridges to assist with the expansion of the national rail system and to standardize the replacement of old wooden bridges with modern steel expansions.
- 1923 - The first Canadian Electrical Code committee is formed with representatives from the provinces to examine new electrical regulations for the country.
- 1927 - CESA publishes the first Canadian Electrical Code Part I, paving the way for a safer electrical system coast to coast, and begins publishing a French Canadian version in 1930.
- 1933 - The Government of Canada decides CESA standards are to be followed in all government contracts.
- May 1940 - CESA forms “approvals division” and begins to issue approvals for electrical equipment intended for sale or installation in compliance with the Canadian Electrical Code Part I via Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario laboratories. CESA mark is created and registered for the first time. Various approvals offices established in Toronto and Montreal in following years.
- April 1944 - CESA becomes Canadian Standards Association (CSA) and is authorized to change its original 1919 Letters Patent by which it was incorporated to extend its scope to an unlimited field of standardization. The United Nations Standardization Committee invites CSA to participate in development of international standards.
- 1946 - The CSA Mark is registered for the first time and CSA becomes Canada’s Representative International Organization for Standardization.
- 1950 - Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario officially transfers testing and inspection services to CSA. CSA Approvals office opens in downtown Toronto with a second CSA Inspection agency office established in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
- 1951 - A CSA Inspection office is opened in Vancouver and an agreement is reached with Keuring van Electrotechnische Materialen, (KEMA) to perform inspection work with CSA-listed factories in Continental Europe.
- October 25, 1954 - CSA Testing Laboratories of the Approvals Division officially opens new lab in Etobicoke Township of metropolitan Toronto, Ontario. The single story building includes 50,000 square feet of work space for the growing demand on CSA services. CSA Headquarters remains in Ottawa.
- 1955 - CSA officially changes from a Standards Development and Approvals office to a Standards Development and Certification organization.
- 1957 - The term “CSA Standard” is registered and the CSA certification mark or monogram is reregistered.
- 1960 - 10,000 square foot extension added to CSA Testing laboratories in Toronto.
- 1962 - CSA establishes an agency in Japan with the Japan Machinery and Metals Inspection Institute to conduct factory inspections in Japan.
- 1964 - A Montreal testing laboratory is opened in Pointe Claire, Quebec and a new Vancouver testing laboratory is opened to accommodate electrical testing.
- 1968 - A new Vancouver office and testing laboratory is opened in Richmond, B.C.
- 1969 - CSA undergoes a restructuring for its 50th anniversary and its headquarters are moved to the main laboratory in metropolitan Toronto.
- 1970 - CSA forms a Consumer Advisory Council and begins publishing consumer safety tips and information via “CSA and the Consumer” newsletter. Readership would grow from 50,000 in 1970 to 500,000 in 1980.
- 1974 - CSA is officially accredited by the newly formed Standards Council of Canada as a Standards writing organization.
- 1976 - CSA expands its laboratory and headquarters with a new two-story addition.
- 1979 - CSA’s 60th anniversary. CSA committee membership has grown to 5,100 members, with 1,231 published standards and the CSA Certification mark appearing on more than 600 million product units yearly. More than 9,200 factories inspected in approximately 40 countries.
- 1979 - CSA chosen to administer ISO 9000 Quality Standards on behalf of Canada.
- 1980 - CSA signs reciprocal testing agreement with Japan Electrical Testing Laboratories.
- 1984 - CSA establishes Quality Management Institute (QMI) to address registration of quality assurance systems in Canada and the United States.
- 1990 - The first fully harmonized Canada/US standard is published for heating and air conditioning systems.
- 1991 The U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration accredits CSA as a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL).
- January 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement takes effect, allowing CSA full access to U.S. markets and leads to creation of CSA C-US certification mark.
- July 1997 - CSA acquires International Approval Services, Inc. in the U.S. and becomes authorizing organization in the U.S. for the American Gas Association’s Blue Star mark and the Canadian Gas Association Blue Flame Mark for gas-fired products. CSA takes ownership of AGA’s Cleveland laboratory for testing and certification of gas-fired products becoming CSA’s first lab able to test gas products for both Canadian and U.S. markets.
- 1997 - CSA opens an office in Bangalore, India, to complement locations in Canada, the U.S., Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and China.
- 1999 - CSA Certification and Testing division becomes known as CSA International.
- 2001 - The organization restructures into three divisions. CSA for standards development, CSA International for certification and testing, and QMI for management systems registration.
- 2002 - US Department of Energy authorizes CSA International for energy efficiency verification testing. CSA opens new office in Mississauga, Canada, specifically focused on standards development. Headquarters remain at Rexdale location with CSA International testing lab.
- 2004 - The OnSpeX division is launched to focus on consumer product evaluation services.
- 2005 - New lighting lab opens near Atlanta, Georgia. CSA International signs new agreement with the China Certification and Inspection (group) Co. Ltd. for the operation of a Joint Client Services Centre.
- 2008 - QMI division sold to SAI Global. CSA focuses on Standards Development and Testing and Certification services. CSA International opens doors to a new laboratory in Guangzhou, China.
- 2009 - CSA acquires UK-based SIRA Test and Certification Limited, SIRA Certification Service, SIRA Environmental and SIRA Consulting Limited. Canadian Standards Association unveils new “CSA Standards” identity to better reflect core values and standards-based end-to-end solutions.
- 2011 - CSA chooses Frankfurt, Germany, as its new European Headquarters and a new joint solar voltaic testing laboratory is opened in Albuquerque, New Mexico. CSA acquires a German company, mikes-testing partners gmbh, which tests and certifies electric and electronic devices and systems for nearly all branches of industry. CSA also acquires emitel AG, headquartered in Strasskirchen, Germany, with offices in Turkey, Hong Kong and Shenzhen, China.
- 2012 - CSA opens new testing and certification laboratories in Shanghai, Kunshan and Hong Kong, China.
- 2012 - CSA acquires Washington-based Orb Optronix to build on their testing and certification services for LED and lighting manufacturing.
- 2012 - CSA aligns all of its divisions, including CSA Standards, OnSPeX and CSA International, under the singular CSA Group brand to better reflect the organization’s presence as a leader in the global marketplace.
- 2014 - CSA Group expands its global testing and certification capability in three cities in New Taipei City, Taiwan, Frankfurt, Germany and Bangalore, India. The highly specialized testing laboratories specialize in medical, industrial product and appliance testing. At this time, CSA Group opens its new hazardous locations laboratory in Plano, Texas.
- 2015 - CSA Group opens two new Canadian laboratories in Edmonton, Alberta, and Langley, British Columbia. In the UK, CSA Group expands its operations in Wales with a new hazardous locations laboratory in Flintshire, North Wales.
- Find some reliable sources not primary sources about it. This won't be added with only primary sources about it. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Joseph. Would third-party news coverage from industry trades be sufficiently reliable sources for citation? CSAGroupTeam (talk) 16:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Edit a Pre-Existing Section - Standards Development
Hello, we would like to recommend some updates to the Standards Dev section of this Wiki page to give a more fulsome outline of the standards development process (which is a common practice, related to all standards development, not just CSA Group). Please feel free to suggest changes, happy to discuss. Thanks!
For nearly 100 years, CSA Group has been facilitating the development of standards with the stated goal to “Make Standards Work for People and Business.”
Today CSA Group facilitates the development and maintenance of more than 3,000 standards, codes and related products for the safety, design or performance of a wide range of products and services. Its standards development practice alone consists of more than 1,300 committees and 8,000 volunteer members that form the backbone of the standards development process. CSA Group standards are cited in legislation at federal, provincial, state and municipal levels across North America. Many are internationally or regionally harmonized. CSA Group is accredited in Canada by the Standards Council of Canada for a vast number of subject areas. In the U.S., it is accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) as a standards writing body for appliances and accessories fuelled by natural, liquefied petroleum and hydrogen gases. CSA Group standards are created by volunteer members. Coming from all walks of life, members’ backgrounds include: scientists, academics, environmentalists and technicians who represent a broad range of stakeholders such as government, industry, labor and consumers.
A standard is a document that stipulates the minimum requirements within a specified scope for the safety and/or performance or utility of products, processes and services. It may also outline industry guidelines and good practices. Many standards define requirements intended to reduce the risk of personal injury due to electrical shock or fire. Some standards set levels of performance for products and, increasingly, standards address social concerns, such as how our environment is managed or how an individual’s personal information is being used.
CSA Group standards are voluntary. Many standards developed by CSA Group are referenced in legislation by governments or other regulatory bodies in jurisdictions throughout North America. Only when a standard has been referenced by federal, local, state, provincial or municipal government, or by a regulatory authority, is compliance with the standard mandatory.
In the development of standards, CSA Group functions as a neutral third-party, providing a structure and a forum for developing the standard while volunteer committee members write and update the standards. CSA Group facilitates these committees of volunteer experts to develop standards using a “balanced matrix” approach, which means that each committee is structured to capitalize on the combined strengths and expertise of its members – with no single group dominating. The committee considers the views of all participants and develops the content of the standard by a consensus process that includes the principles of inclusive participation, and respect for diverse interests and transparency. Standards committee volunteers are selected to represent various interest groups most likely to be affected by a standard, such as business and industry, regulatory bodies, science and academia, labour, and consumer groups as applicable. Once a draft standard has been developed, it is submitted for a minimum 60-day public review period and amended if necessary.
Standards developed by CSA Group are living documents, continually reviewed, revised and refreshed as necessary, to address changing requirements and emerging technologies. Each standard is reviewed at least every five years as part of an accredited process of continual improvement.
In addition to developing new standards and codes, CSA Group also reviews and considers adopted and adapted standards from other organizations and countries. An adopted standard is a standard that has been developed by another organization and adopted by CSA Group for use in Canada with little or no technical changes. If the standard is adopted with significant Canadian technical content deviation, it is referred to it as an adapted standard. By adopting standards from internationally recognized organizations, such as the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC), CSA Group contributes to the worldwide harmonization of standards. This reduces the number of standards that apply worldwide and can help manufacturers to access new markets, while continuing to address safety and performance Standards Development Process
Consensus is the foundation of CSA Group’s standards development process. The following outlines the key elements of the consensus standards development process at CSA Group.
When called on to develop a standard, CSA Group forms a committee composed of volunteer members. The volunteers are selected to represent the various interest groups most likely to be affected by the standard, such as business and industry, regulatory bodies, science and academia, labor, consumer groups, and others as applicable.
To promote fairness and to capitalize on the strength and expertise of a broad range of interest groups, each committee is formed using a balanced matrix approach. The composition (matrix) of strategic steering committees and technical committees is set forth with the objective of ensuring that all stakeholder interest categories are represented in reasonable proportion. The matrix establishes a minimum and maximum number of voting members for each interest category and provides a reasonable balance of representation on these committees. CSA Group employees facilitate the process by providing project management support to committee members.
There are three types of committees:
- Strategic Steering Committee (SSC): established under the authority of the Standards Policy Board in broad areas of CSA Group standardization activity.
- Technical Committee (TC): provides the expertise and guidance to develop the technical content of a standard. A TC has sole responsibility for approving the technical content of a standard. A Technical Committee is established under the authority of the SSC, with the concurrence of the SSC and CSA Group staff in each specific, well-defined area of standardization falling within the broad jurisdiction of the SSC.
- Technical SubCommittee (TSC): A Technical SubCommittee (TSC) complements the technical development level (e.g., the work of the TC). In order to maintain continuity and communication between the committees, the chair and other members of the TSC may also be members of the TC. The SubCommittees are considered permanent (standing) committees of experts. They are established by TCs to draft a CSP(s) in whole or part.
The following interest categories are suitable for many committees responsible for Consensus Standards Products specifying requirements for products, most materials, and some services:
- Producer Interest (PI): Those who are predominantly involved in production (e.g., manufacturers), promotion, retailing or distribution of the subject product(s), material(s), or service(s).
- User Interest (UI): Those who predominantly represent consumer interests or end users of the subject product(s), material(s), or service(s), and who are not involved in any way in production and/or distribution of the subject product(s), material(s), or service(s).
- Regulatory Authority (RA): Those who are predominantly involved in regulating the use of the subject product(s), material(s), or service(s).
- General Interest (GI): Those who are not associated with production, distribution, direct use or regulation of the subject product(s), material(s), or service(s) but who have demonstrated relevant expertise or credentials. This category may include representatives of academic and scientific interests.
Reaching a Consensus
When developing a standard, CSA Group committee members work toward a consensus of opinion and aim for substantial agreement among the interest groups represented on the committee. The committee considers the views of all participants and develops the content by a consensus process, but not necessarily with unanimity among all committee members. When a draft standard has been agreed upon, it is submitted for public review and amended if necessary. Standards Development Stages The standards development process under which CSA Group operates is formally documented and controlled. This process includes eight distinct stages:
- Preliminary Stage: On receipt of a request for the development of a standard an evaluation is conducted and the project is submitted for authorization.
- Proposal Stage: Public notice of intent to proceed is published and a technical committee is formed - or the project is assigned to an existing technical committee.
- Preparatory Stage: A working draft is prepared and a project schedule is established.
- Committee Stage: The technical committee or technical subcommittee, facilitated by CSA Group staff, develops the draft through an interactive process that typically involves a number of committee meetings
- Enquiry Stage: The draft is offered to the public for review and comment, the technical committee reaches consensus, CSA Group staff conduct a quality review and a pre-approval edit is completed.
- Approval Stage: The technical committee approves the technical content by letter ballot or recorded vote. A second level review verifies that standards development procedures were followed.
- Publication Stage: CSA Group staff conduct a final edit to verify conformity with the applicable editorial and procedural requirements and then publishes and disseminates the standard.
- Maintenance Stage: The standard is maintained with the objective of keeping it up to date and technically valid. This may include the publication of amendments, the interpretation of a standard or clause, and the systematic (five-year) review of all standards.
Intellectual property rights and content ownership
CSA Group owns copyright in the documents and drafts it produces. It is also the authorized licensee, of all standards and codes it produces. Volunteer committee members are contributing authors to publications such as standards and codes developed by CSA Group and assign all rights in these contributions (including copyright) to CSA Group. Without limitation, the unauthorized use, modification, copying, or disclosure of CSA Group documents may violate laws that protect CSA Group’s and/or others’ intellectual property and may give rise to a right in CSA Group and/or others to seek legal redress for such use, modification, copying, or disclosure. To the extent permitted by license or by law, CSA Group reserves all intellectual property rights in its documents.
Not done Completely unsourced, also some of this is unencyclopedic- no-one cares about the copyrights you own, or the exact details of your business workings. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:19, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Add a Section - "Testing and Certification"
CSA Group provides localized testing and certification services globally. Certification is the procedure by which a facility, product (prototype and samples), service or system is tested or inspected for the purpose of certifying that is confirms with an applicable standard or other recognized document(s). Certification of a product is an ongoing process that involves follow-up factory inspections and retail surveillance to ensure conformity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathleen7260 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Testing and Certification
CSA Group provides localized testing and certification services globally for a wide range of products across key business areas including hazardous location and industrial; plumbing, construction, lighting & wiring; health, safety and technology; appliances & gas; alternative energy & sustainability; as well as consumer product evaluation services.
Certification is the procedure by which a facility, product (prototype and samples), service or system becomes tested or inspected and certified in conformity with the applicable standard or other recognized document(s). Certification of a product is an ongoing process that involves follow-up factory inspections and retail surveillance to ensure conformity.
The CSA certification marks indicate that a product, process or service has been tested to a Canadian or U.S. standard and it meets the requirements of an applicable CSA Group standard or another recognized document used as a basis for certification. Billions of products bearing CSA Group certification marks are found in homes, on the shelves of retail chains and sold by major product distributors.
CSA Group tests products for the North American and International marketplace against applicable standards including those of CSA Group, Underwriters Laboratories (UL), NSF National Sanitation Foundation (NSF), American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and other agencies. CSA Group is accredited by national agencies including:
- Occupational Safety & Health Administration (OSHA) - Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory
- American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
- National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP)
- National Evaluation Service (NES)
- Standards Council of Canada (SCC)
Testing and Certification Process
The certification process starts when a manufacturer and submits a sample or several samples of their product, along with any technical information, to an accredited CSA Group laboratory for testing.
Once in the lab, specially calibrated equipment is used in the testing process. Products can be tested against electric shock, fire and explosion hazards. They can be dropped, compressed, burned, frozen, submerged, soaked or sanded – all depending on the requirements of the standard used as a basis for testing.
After testing, a technical expert reviews the results to verify that the sample product has passed all of the required tests. Only when a sample passes rigorous testing, can identical products from the manufacturer bear the CSA certification mark for that region. Even after a sample product successfully completes its required testing, selected final products are inspected at random on a regular basis in factory or selected from retailers to ensure compliance with the applicable standards. In order to continue to sell their products to the public, manufacturers must continually assure that they always meet the required standards for safety, performance, and/or energy efficiency.
CSA Group Certification Marks
The CSA mark indicates that a sample or multiple samples of a product has been certified to applicable standards including standards written or administered by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), Underwriters Laboratories (UL), CSA Group (CSA), NSF International, and other North American organizations.
CSA Group marks and labels indicate that the certification requirements have been met. A mark can also demonstrate that additional requirements, such as energy efficiency, sanitation, low lead, etc., have been met when the appropriate indicator is present. CSA marks and labels appear on a wide range of products including electric, gas-fired, personal protective equipment and mechanical products.
Certification Recognition and Accreditation
CSA Group global laboratories are recognized and accredited by the following:
- The U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) lists CSA Group as a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL)
- The Standards Council of Canada (SCC) has accredited CSA Group as a Certification Organization (CO) and Testing Organization (TO)
- American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
- International Accreditation Service, Inc. (IAS) recognizes CSA Group for testing and inspection services
- IECEE CB Scheme recognizes CSA Group as an National Certification Body (NCB) and recognizes our labs as Certification Body Testing Labs (CBTLs)
- IECEx recognizes CSA Group as a hazardous location Certification Body and Testing Labs
- Notified Bodies (NB) in the context of European directives, such as the ATEX, MID and the EMC directive
- National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST/NVLAP)
- International Laboratory Accreditation Cooperation (ILAC) members around the globe
- City of Los Angeles
Energy efficiency verification program recognition
CSA Group will verify that products comply with the latest energy efficiency requirements including ENERGY STAR®. It is recognized by numerous governmental agencies including:
- U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
- U.S. Department of Energy, Office of Energy Efficiency (DOE)
- California Energy Commission (CEC)
- Natural Resources Canada (NRCan)
- Canadian provinces of British Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia