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In the Main division table of eastern/western dialects, you forgot Andorra. It's a state too!200.104.10.20 (talk) 11:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andorra

Speaking of which, the map seems to show that the Andorra dialect is transitional between Northern Catalan and Central Catalan. What exactly makes it transitional, how is it related to the northern dialects, how to the central dialects? Moreover, the fact that Andorra is an independent state has no doubt influenced its lexicon. Maybe an article on Andorran Catalan should be written. Steinbach (talk) 07:18, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stressed e/ɛ/ə

OK, so after reading the articles on Catalan along with all the transcriptions, I can infer the following:

In all dialects, stressed ɛ corresponds to both e & ɛ in Late Latin when before a geminate (e.g. ferro, set < septe, -et) or a syllable-final /l/ or /w/ (e.g. gel, peu, (but not meu, teu, seu, as they rarely get logical stress)).
In all dialects stressed e derives from earlier ei (pedrera < pedraira < petraria, més < meis < magis) or is a part of a current ei (rei; I'm not sure about remɛi -- had the original ð been an obstacle? why ɛ, not e?)
Other than the above cases:
- Late Latin e > ə on the isles / ɛ in the East / e in the West
- Late Latin ɛ > e

(All in all, there seems to be no phonemic ɛ in the West).
Could anyone armed with the sources back up, correct and expand? 195.187.108.4 (talk) 12:35, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

and another thing : Andorra

~~Shouldn't Andorra appear somewhere on the dialect range? I don't know if it's Eastern or Nothern or whatever . . but it should be here somewhere right?~~ skak E L 00:02, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

oops, this was already covered. skak E L 10:54, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]