Talk:Comparison of wiki hosting services

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Page recommendations[edit]

1) Put this warning on the page:

  • Be warned that the Wikimedia Foundation does not guarantee the quality of or endorse any of the services on the list.[1]

2) Use the chart from:

instead of your current chart.


I'll can make the changes if I get a positive response, or if this comment is ignored for too long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.6.122.175 (talk) 10:35, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I very much doubt we could find consensus to include either.
The idea for a disclaimer is an interesting one, but as I've never seen anything like it anywhere on Wikipedia, I expect there's strong consensus not to include such information and that consensus is described in a policy or guideline that I can't recall.
What from that chart do you feel would help? Much of it wouldn't be allowed because Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, such as WP:NOT and WP:V. --Ronz (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


Why is Tettra included?[edit]

100.6.102.173 (talk) 01:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for inclusion for a wiki-farm from a person with a WP:COI[edit]

I would like to nominate Miraheze to be included. As you can see from Special:Permalink/776971341#Suggesting_Miraheze_as_an_alternative_wiki, I have a serious WP:COI here and should do no more than make this nomination.--Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:39, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Could you provide some independent sources demonstrating why we should add it? --Ronz (talk) 14:48, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
An abstract was submitted by me to a (very) local interdisciplinary conference that we held at our campus. No poster or abstract was refereed, and all submissions were from our faculty or students. I don't think this counts, but when I do something at a conference or get something published, I will let you know. --Guy vandegrift (talk) 18:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll try to keep a eye here. However, I think you are describing a primary, non-independent source. A source that lacks independence will probably not be enough. --Ronz (talk) 16:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
I understand and endorse the need to avoid such sources on WP pages. But what about one in "Wikipedia:" space, such as Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. Since it is an advice page between editors, shouldn't rules be looser? My intent is to help Wikipedia by offering teachers better options than having inexperienced students contribute to Wikipedia. The Miraheze wikifarm and Wikiversity could help with this. The problem with Wikiversity is that students can see each other write, and in large classes it is common to assign one topic for all the students and let them compete. In such cases, students should write in private, and only publish after it is given a good grade. Should I just go into Wikipedia:Alternative outlets and write one or two sentences about Miraheze?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 19:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

My reverting of a recent edit by an administrator[edit]

I reverted with this edit because I strongly disagree with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services&type=revision&diff=793196985&oldid=793185806

I am a user of Miraheze, while user:Reception123 is an administrator. We both have some COI because I also am a Miraheze wikicreater, but requested that service solely for the purpose of creating 100 wikis for my students (see https://wright.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page )

@There'sNoTime: if you revert me on this I will take no further action, but you should know that Miraheze is a unique service that I found while researching a proposal I was going to make to the WMFfoundation to create such a wiki. And I found it on the link that you removed from this WP page. I work mostly on Wikiversity, am a professor of physics at Wright State University, and feel that Wikiversity is handicapped by the inability of students to write privately. Such private wiki-writing is essential in my courses because I don't want students looking at each other's work as the do term papers. Please reconsider your attitude towards Miraheze. They are doing good work, and they are the only ones providing this service with no advertising or fees.

I need these 100 wikis because I am striving to create an open source bank of exam questions, that unlike Osmosis is free of charge and will be hosted on Wikiversity for most exam questions, and perhaps someday also hosted on Miraheze for that "private stock" of questions that teachers want students not to see. Miraheze is in the process of registering as a non-profit, and to the best of my knowledge is run entirely by volunteers.

Yours truly-Guy vandegrift (talk) 02:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

@Guy vandegrift: the edit you restored just contains a link to MediaWiki's list of hosting providers. A link which is already present in the "External links" section at the bottom of this article. External links should not be in the body of an article, and I don't see the reason we mention this other list twice. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to why we need both? This has nothing to do with Miraheze or my opinion of it, but I can't say I'm overly impressed with the amount of running around and cleaning up we're having to do -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 07:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@There'sNoTime: Sorry, I shot from the hip without realizing that you already had a link to mediawiki. Would you object to the sister link shown to the right in the External Section?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 03:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Guy vandegrift: Not a problem Face-smile.svg I wouldn't object to that at all, and think it's a great way of linking to a more inclusive list of wiki hosting services -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 07:01, 3 August 2017 (UTC)