Talk:Copper Green

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I removed some of the "alleges;" when it is clear from context that we are referring to Hersh's report, I don't think they're necessary.

I used this wording:

DoD Spokesperson Mr. Lawrence DiRita immediately issued a statement about the accusations, referring to them as "outlandish, conspiratorial, and filled with error and anonymous conjecture." Press accounts have generally characterized DiRita's statement as a "denial."

Here's why:

Although the press has generally been calling the statement a "denial," I think it is quite possible to read it as a "non-denial denial," see my remarks at Talk:Non-denial denial. For example, is DiRita saying that all the claims in Hersh's article are false, or only that certain claims are "dramatically false?" Since he doesn't say which claims are being denied, that leaves many loopholes open. The phrase "outlandish, conspiratorial, and filled with error and anonymous conjecture" certainly, to me, has the flavor of some of the Watergate non-denial denials. The specific one's I'm trying to think of are Mitchell's remarks along the lines of the Woodward-Bernstein stories being "ridiculous" and "the Washington Post's sources are a fount of misinformation." Dpbsmith 00:50, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

I realize I'm 13 years late to the party, but we don't need to have a statement from authorities stating "I deny the existence of Copper Green" to characterize the statements they have made as "denials". To imply that the statements that were offered are "non-denial denials" fall afoul of original interpretation (i.e. WP:OR). -Location (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

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can we get some better sources, or, say, any sources? (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a shame there isn't enough information out there to expand this article and improve its sourcing. This is really the true story of what the majority of alleged abuse cases were at the prison, and Lynndie England was telling all the day this story broke until the Army threw her downa hole. Detainees were raping younger prisoners and starting riots, threatening them with the embarrassment of showing their family and friends photos of them in compromising situations was a good way to stop it. The media had no photos of the real torture cases, so bundled it all up in one story called "abuse" and ran with it.Batvette (talk) 12:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
This whole thing is nothing but conspiracy theory junk. Is that what Wikipedia is about? This is hardly "encyclopedic", which is our goal. (talk) 14:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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