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-[[Image:Symbol opinion vote.svg|20px]] '''Comment:''' The sources provided are written ''by'' Brown (or come from organizations he's affiliated with). But sources for a biography must be ''about'' Brown, and have been written by a third-party. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 19:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
-Reply to comment: I think these commetns are unfair. Only two of the references indicated were by Brown (the book and the Nature) article. One references in on Wikipedia already, another is from the British government (SEAC) and the last is from a Chemistry organisation. As that is three sources from third parties I don't see your issue.--[[User:Gonkstem|Gonkstem]] ([[User talk:Gonkstem|talk]]) 13:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
+I have removed comments related to the insertion of this article which do not relate to the content and so are historical.
-After looking through the sources, I agree with [[User:Someguy1221]]. Source #4 is in fact a reliable source, but it's the only one I see as helpful for [[WP:N|notability criteria]], which I think hasn't been quite established yet. #1 is a bio of the subject from a chemistry organization that he's a member of, as they don't source any of the info it might just be from his resume for all we can tell. #2 is a Wikipedia article, we can't use Wikipedia articles to source other Wikipedia articles. #3 is a listing of him at a university, #5 is his book and #6 is written by him as well. If you could find more like #4, from sources that aren't closely associated with the subject or written by the subject, that would help for notability reasons. <font color="Purple">[[User:Raven1977|Raven1977]]</font><sup><font color="Blue">[[User Talk:Raven1977|Talk to me]]</font></sup><sub><font color="Purple">[[Special:Contributions/Raven1977|My edits]]</font></sub> 18:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
-Reply to Raven1977: I think the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia should be consistent. There is another scientist from the same University as Brown who is listed on wikipedia. Cheryll Tickle see below
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryll_Tickle
-This scientists references for noteability are similar to Brown and include a similar faculty profile. What you describe as a bio from a chemistry organisation is a speaker profile similar to the one for Tickle. However, Brown is far more widely recognised, being frequently called on by the Media for his expertise. See for example:
-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4201072.stm
-or the following dating back to his time in Cambridge
-http://www.open2.net/healtheducation/body_mind/twocjdbse4.html
-and if you want evidence of support from influential people - how about the Prince of Wales?
-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1381276/Charles-backs-controversial-CJD-research.html
-If you require any further evidence from reputable third party sources please let me know.--[[User:Gonkstem|Gonkstem]] ([[User talk:Gonkstem|talk]]) 22:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
-:I think the links Gonkstem has provided here are adequate to demonstrate [[WP:NOTE|notability]]. If nobody disagrees, I'll move the submission to articlespace. [[User:Gonzonoir|Gonzonoir]] ([[User talk:Gonzonoir|talk]]) 08:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)