Talk:Deer in mythology

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Misunderstandings[edit]

To judge how much may be built on a basic misunderstanding and too much television, look at the previous History of this entry, which included Golden Hinds (or golden-horned deer: Elaphoi Khrysokeroi) were five immortal beasts, deer-like but larger than bulls. Four such Hinds were captured by the goddess Artemis to pull her chariot. The fifth (the Kerynitian Hind, or the Hind of Cerynes) escaped, and was later captured by Hercules as a gift to Artemis. I hope we can get some of the authentic deer myth into this entry. Wetman 19:43, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Incoherence[edit]

This sentence seems a bit incoherent:

"In 2004, a television dramatisation of the life of Hercules in the manner of Xena, Warrior Princess, centaur-like Hinds with the upper bodies of women are shown to have the ability to heal, but this took a lot of energy. "

It should be rephrased, by someone who has seen the TV show in question and won't introduce more errors in the process. --Jim Henry 23:05, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Page move[edit]

Would anyone mind if I moved this page to Deer in mythology? - Haukurth 11:19, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's been two years and no-one's objected so I'm going ahead. Haukur 22:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Tarot deck[edit]

There is a reference regarding one of the cards - The Moon - in the Avalon Tarot deck published by Lo Scarabeo - to the stag being a symbol of Christ. This to me sounds like an explanation for "Prongs" in the Harry Potter books, most notably Prisoner of Azkaban. At the moment I don't have anything more solid to go on but J. K. Rowling is after all a classicist and shows she knows the different symbolisms/mythoi well in other contexts. - MaeveQueenOfCrows 21:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Saint Hubertus placement[edit]

Why story about Saint Hubertus is in part titled "Slavic paganism"? - guest —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.144.109.119 (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

unsourced categorisation[edit]

No sources were provided to support the individual deer-myths being seen as part of an indo-european theory, so I've just removed the Abrahmraic and Indo-European categories as they aren't really required and are just over-formatting.

I also have split Norse and Anglo-saxon into two separate sections as these are different cultures albeit closely related. If sources predomenantly refer to the deer as "Germanic" then that category should be applied, but the sources cited so far do not explicity support a unified Germanic topolgy of deer symbolism across. Davémon (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

My addition of the category was not in support of an Indo-European deer myth theory but as categorizing cultures. Of course, continental categorization works too. Secondly, both of the sources I've provided cover both Anglo-Saxon and Norse (and, with Simek, the whole of the Germanic peoples) religious motifs relating to the stag. Anglo-Saxon and Norse paganism are by far the best attested forms of Germanic paganism. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

davemon (talk · contribs) has insisted that this article have two sections labeled "Anglo-Saxon" and "Norse" rather than the two combined into a single section as "Germanic". Let's get something clear here. Both the Anglo-Saxon and Norse peoples were Germanic peoples, and shared a relatively common basis in beliefs (Germanic paganism). These two groups are generally treated comparatively because the Anglo-Saxons left so little behind; comparatively with other Germanic peoples, they make up what we know as Germanic mythology. Further, the subsections here are treated alphabetically. I've provided two sources that treat deer among the Anglo-Saxons and Norse comparatively (the Simek addition is from his Eikþyrnir entry in his handbook). :bloodofox: (talk) 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Davemon, you seem to have forgotten to complete a sentence in the article: "Sam Newton identifies both the Sutton Hoo whetstone and the [_____] as early English symbols of kingship." :bloodofox: (talk) 17:30, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you bloodofox (talk · contribs)! I hadn't noticed the alphabetisation, of course Nordic and Anglo-saxon belong together. If the Germanic over-category is the only way of achieving that, then it is agreeable (a Germanic then anglo-saxon and norse sub-categories would be overformatting). --Davémon (talk) 17:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem, and I am glad we could come to an understanding. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)