Talk:Der Doppelgänger

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Translation

The alleged word-for-word translation is surely not that (for instance: Hause / window; "where she lived"; Antlitz / pale face). User:Accadon, where does it come from? (Is it your own?)

A few textual details

I've just restored a few well-meaning but wrong corrections of the text. I'm putting a note here for the benefit of future editors who might be inclined to make the same corrections.

Heine definitely wrote "demselben Platz", not "dem selben Platz".
He definitely wrote "du bleiche Geselle", with a lowercase "d", despite the preceding exclamation mark. He may possibly have written a comma rather than an exclamation mark.
He probably wrote "eigne", not "eig'ne".

Sources:

Breitkopf & Haertel edition of Schubert's complete works (ed. Mandyczewski), 1895, as reproduced in the Dover edition of the Schubert song cycles: "demselben", "eig'ne", "Doppelgänger! du".
Moore, "Singer and Accompanist", chapter on "Der Doppelgänger": "demselben", "eigne", "Doppelgänger, du".
Liner notes to Schreier & Schiff's recording of Schwanengesang: "demselben", "eigne", "Doppelgänger, du".
Gutenberg etext of Heine's Buch der Lieder: "demselben", "eigne", "Doppelgänger! du".
22nd edition of the Buch der Lieder, Hoffmann und Campe, 1864: "demselben", "eig'ne", "Doppelgänger, du".
Manchester University Press edition of the Buch der Lieder, 1920: "demselben", "eigne", "Doppelgänger! du".

I've gone with the last of these on the grounds that unlike the others it's an actual scholarly edition and shows every sign of having been carefully researched.

Gareth McCaughan (talk) 00:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doppel(t)gänger

Does the text shown here refer to Heine's or Schubert's version? The original poem notably says Doppeltgänger, whereas Schubert omits the 't'. It should be clarified which version is referenced here and the difference might be worth noting separately. Zitronensorbet (talk) 10:38, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Final 'resolution'?

for me the unexpected C major chord after the last return of the passacaglia is a an important moment - which I'd like to add to the description. any comments welcome Lawrence18uk (talk) 14:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]