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Passed. Harrias (he/him) • talk 20:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 17:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this shortly. Harrias (he/him) • talk 17:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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2. Verifiable with no original research:

  1. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
  2. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);
  3. it contains no original research; and
  4. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • 2a. Simple win. A list of references is provided in an appropriately titled section. Some optional notes below:
  • Ref #6, capitalise "bay" so that the title is in title case to match the others.
  • Ref #11, change from the website "Packers.com" to the publisher "Green Bay Packers, Inc.", to be consistent with ref #2 and #14.
  • Refs #1 and #15, consider changing from the website address to the website title/publisher, for consistency with other references.
  • 2b. All citations provided appear to be to good, reliable sources.
  • 2c. Across the five spotchecks carried out, every single one identified something present in the article which was not present in the source material.
  • 2d. No copyvio or plagiarism concerns from the spotchecks carried out.
  • "He attended Green Bay East High School and lived close to City Stadium, the home of the Green Bay Packers at the time." – Sourced to ref #2, "Christl, Cliff. "Dominic Olejniczak"". No copyvio or close para-phrasing issues. The source says he lived near Hagemeister Park, not City Stadium though.
    •  Done, I changed up the "Early life" section to Hagemeister, but note another source later notes that his childhood home was close to "the stadium" which at the time of the source being published was City Stadium. That said, geographically, both parks are very close to each other, so he grew up next to both of them. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In recognition of Olejniczak's accomplishments, a sold-out dinner with over 500 patrons was thrown in his honor." – Sourced to ref #9, "Bartelt, James (April 19, 1955)". No copyvio or close para-phrasing issues. The source doesn't mention that the dinner was sold-out, and has a specific number of 500, not "over 500".
  • "As mayor and director, he helped organize a stock drive that generated $100,000 in revenue and helped prevent the team from folding." – Sourced to ref #12, "Lopresti, Mike (January 1, 2011)". No copyvio or close para-phrasing issues. No mentioned of $100,000 in the source.
  • "During his tenure, the Packers' net worth grew over 5,000% and Lambeau Field grew in size from 32,000 sears to over 57,000 seats. At that time, Olejniczak was named the first Packer Chairman of the Board and served in that role until 1989." – Sourced to ref #2, "Christl, Cliff. "Dominic Olejniczak"". No copyvio or close para-phrasing issues. The source doesn't specify that he was the first chairman of the board; all the other information is present in the source.
  • "On November 24, 1938, Olejniczak married Regina Bettine at St. Francis Xavier Cathedral in Green Bay. The couple adopted two sons, Thomas Marshall Olejniczak and Mark Dominic Olejniczak." – Sourced to ref #1, "Mayors of Green Bay - Dominic Olejniczak". The first sentence is pretty much word for work what the source says, but I'm happy that it is a simple and common phrasing that does not amount to copyvio or plagiarism. The source does not give the children's full names, nor does it specify that they were adopted.

I'm going to stop this review for the moment to give you time to work on the sourcing issues raised above. Please check through every single source in the article to ensure that all facts presented in the article are present in the source material. Once you're happy, ping me, and I'll carry out further spotchecks. I'll stick the nomination on hold for the time being. Harrias (he/him) • talk 10:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • "During his tenure, the city of Green Bay built a pipeline to Lake Michigan for its water supply and the beltline around the city was planned and developed." – Sourced to ref #1, "Mayors of Green Bay - Dominic Olejniczak". The information is present in the source provided, but is extremely similar to the phrasing in the source: "During his tenure as mayor, the city built the pipeline to Lake Michigan for its water The beltline around the city was planned and the planned development concept came about.."
  • "After the resignation and then death of Russ Bogda, Olejniczak was elected as the seventh president of the franchise." – Sourced to ref #10, "Christl, Cliff (February 4, 1979)". Source only says he became president after the death of Bogda, it doesn't mention a resignation, nor that he was the seventh president.

Beyond these two, the rest of the sourcing looks fine.

Images

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6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

  1. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and
  2. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • 6a. I can't see any justification for the license tag used. It claims that the image was "published in the United States between 1928 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice" – but the link is to an online image that clearly was not published before 1977 (because, you know, the internet didn't exist then). Unless evidence can be provided that this image was published before 1977 with no copyright notice, we can't use it.
    • (As image has been removed.)
  • 6b. Image used is appropriate and suitably captioned.

Prose

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1. Well-written:

  1. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
  2. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • 1a. Some notes below, nothing major.
  • There's a few mis-spellings of his surname in the City government' section.
  • Wikilink alderman, as you've done for mayor.
  • "Over a period of almost 50 years.." From what I can see, this is from 1950 until his death in 1989: 39 years. I think it is a stretch to call 39 almost 50. How about "almost 40 years"?
  • "During his presidency, he hired Vince Lombardi in 1959, the Packers would win five championships, and the team saw its net worth grow over 5,000%." This uses two different tenses: "he hired", "would win", "saw ... grow". For consistency, switch the middle one from "would win" to "won".
  • "His 10 years in office was, at the time, the longest tenure of any Green Bay mayor in city history." The "in city history" bit is redundant, and can be removed.
  • "His support for the team continued as his career progressed, first as alderman and then as mayor of Green Bay." This feels like it is duplicating the information given in the previous section without adding much of importance, and can probably be removed.
  • "..that generated over $100,000 in revenue.." Consider using something like (roughly equivalent to ${{inflation|US|0.1|1950|r=2}}{{nbsp}}million in {{Inflation/year|US}}) to give "..that generated over $100,000 (roughly equivalent to $1.27 million in 2023) in revenue.." for context.
  • "Olejniczak quickly promoted within the leadership.." This seems like it is missing a word.
  • Explain what "(1–10–1)" means.
  • 1b. No relevant MOS issues.

3. Broad in its coverage:

  1. it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and
  2. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

  • 3a. All okay, the subject is covered well. Consider adding some more on his personality, which a few of the sources cover, but it isn't required for GA.
  • 3b. The article does not go into excessive detail.
  • 4. No issues.
  • 5. No issues.

@Gonzo fan2007: That's a wrap I think. Harrias (he/him) • talk 09:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Harrias, I think I have resolved all your comments. On the photo, I removed it for now to not hold up the nom. I'll continue to do some research, and if all else fails, I will probably claim fair use since he is long deceased and a free alternative is unlikely to ever be found. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me. I reckon you'd be able to find an image in one of the contemporary newspapers with no copyright notice, if nothing else. Passing now. Harrias (he/him) • talk 20:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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