Talk:Don't Say You Love Me (M2M song)/GA1

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Reviewer: Magiciandude (talk · contribs) 03:38, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh man, I remember this song and the movie when it came out! Anyways, I'll take on this review. Admittedly, I did do some contributions on this article, but only pertained to charts and that was a long time ago. Hopefully that doesn't constitute as being a significant contributor. Erick (talk) 03:38, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha yeah me too. I remember going to see the movie as a young teenager. I'm nearly 30 now and i'm not ashamed to admit I still enjoy listening to this song haha :). Freikorp (talk) 07:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
General
  • Numbers between zero and nine should spelled out per WP:ORDINAL.
  • If you're referring to wording such as "It reached number 2", please see MOS:HASH. I think the wording is acceptable in this circumstance. Freikorp (talk)
Huh interesting, I'm surprised I never saw that guideline before.
  • Ensure that all the date formats are consistent per MOS:DATEUNIFY
  • Sorry but I can't find where the date formatting is inconsistent, please point it out to me. Freikorp (talk)
  • ""Don't Say You Love Me" appeared in the Felicity episode "The List", which aired in the US on October 3, 1999", "both the film and soundtrack were released in the US on November 10, 1999", " It was released in the UK on March 20". These example sentences use month-day format while the rest of the article use the day-month format.
  • Only the release date should be listed on the infobox, not the country where it was first released.
Lead
  • "It was first released on the soundtrack to the film Pokémon: The First Movie in November 1999, also appearing in the film's closing credits." → "It was first released on the soundtrack to the film Pokémon: The First Movie in November 1999 and appears in the film's closing credits."
  • "After being released as a single from the soundtrack it later appeared on M2M's debut album Shades of Purple" add "(2000)" after Shades of Purple as that is the year the album was released.
Release and appearances
  • "That same month it was featured in the Beverly Hills, 90210 episode "Tainted Love"" → "In the same month, it was featured in the Beverly Hill..."
Charts and certifications
  • Both certifications from the RIAA (before May 2013) and ARIA are based on units shipped for singles, not sold.
  • I've reworded the certification table to say "Shipments" instead of "Sales". Freikorp (talk)
  • I'm not sure the inclusion of the Latin pop and Tropical airplay charts are really warranted unless they released a Spanish version.
  • To be honest i'm confused about how it managed to chart here, but if it's OK with you i'd prefer to leave this in here until we get a third opinion. Freikorp (talk)
It's cool, I'm not forcing you to remove.
  • Per WP:USCHARTS, Hot Singles Sales chart cannot be included due to the Hot 100 being present.
Track listing
  • All of the track listings for each single needs to be sourced.
  • Found all except one via Amazon.com. Amazon doesn't always back up the country of release, though I could cite the CD itself as a secondary reference for there; comprehensive information is found at Discogs (here's the one for the single I can't find on Amazon: [1]) I know you can't cite discogs, but I can cite the CD directly. Would that be required, and would citing the CD itself be good enough for the one I can't find on Amazon? I've looked at featured articles for songs and only about half the ones I looked at had references for track listing. Freikorp (talk)
Yes you may cite the CD single itself.
Critical reception
  • You should mention that Chuck Taylor was writing the review for Billboard so you could say: "Chuck Taylor of Billboard magazine was writing...
  • Since the next sentence is a another review from Billboard, you can mention the editor is also writing for Billboard such as "Michael Paoletta also from Billboard" or something similar.
  • Entertainment Weekly is a magazine and needs to be italicized per its article.
Music video
  • "The video was directed by Nigel Dick and filmed from October 4 till October 6, 1999" how about "The video was directed by Nigel Dick and filmed from 4 October to 6 October 1999"
References
  • Billboard magazines released before 2009 are published by Nielsen N.V..
Misc.
  • Any known live performances of the song such as at an award ceremony, festival, or a concert?
  • I didn't come across any mentions in the sources I found, though i'll have a more in depth look tomorrow. Freikorp (talk)

That's all I got for now. Just fix the above issues and it should be good to go. Erick (talk) 13:41, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Magiciandude. Addressed everything except the live performances post, which I will look at tomorrow. Freikorp (talk) 14:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing, keep up the great work! Erick (talk) 14:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Magiciandude: I've added referenced information on 3 appearances i've found. While it's safe to assume they would have played their biggest hit at all of their concerts I could only find one reference specifically saying they did. While searching for this information I inadvertently found a whole heap of other information and added it the article; you may wish to review this before passing the nomination. Thanks. Freikorp (talk) 04:54, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very nice find! The only changes I would make are:
    • "Questioned about the lyric change in an interview, M2M replied" → "When questioned about the lyric change in an interview, M2M replied"
    • You used the month-day format on the first sentence of the Live performances instead of the day-month format used everywhere else.
    • Maybe it's because I don't speak Norwegian, but Ref #8 doesn't mention anything about them performing in Disney Epcot.
Once these issues are addressed, I will gladly pass this nomination. Erick (talk) 13:48, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Magiciandude: Done. Well spotted with ref 8; turns out I put a reference in the wrong place. Cheers :) Freikorp (talk) 14:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I now pass this article. Well done! Erick (talk) 14:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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