Talk:Donald A. Wollheim/Archive 1

Archive 1

Conservative?

Also, I don't think he was conservative. There's certainly no evidence of conservativism on the page, while there is evidence against, in the fact that he was part of the Futurians and in his fighting against the censorship of books with homosexuality. -fourpoints

Huh? There's nothing in the article asserting that he was conservative. --Orange Mike 20:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Wolheim had different political views over the course of his life. —SlamDiego_←T 21:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Health in later years

Should be something about his stroke (in late 88 or early 89?)... AnonMoos (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

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Slow-rolling edit war

A dynamic I.P. in the 63.17.*.* range keeps trying to re-insert a callow and callous passage from a fanzine by the young Don Wollheim, with a rationale that it is revelatory about Wollheim's character. No reliable sources have discussed this quote, which makes its inclusion fall under WP:UNDUE; it seems to have been selected by the anonymous editor because it offends their own sensibilities, which seems to fall under WP:OR or even WP:SOAP. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:44, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

L. Sprague de Camp on Wollheim

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I own a copy of de Camp's Science-Fiction Handbook (the copy I read as a kid was discarded from my local public library many years ago). What the Wikipedia article omits is the fact this is a storehouse of information on pre-WWII Science Fiction history -- well, maybe gossip. This book has a section where de Camp mentions Wollheim as a young fan, stating Wollheim's Communist sympathies were due to the influence of one John B. Michel, how this led to conflicts with other SF fans (at one convention a resolution Michel introduced urging fans to work towards "a more unified world, a more Utopian existence" was defeated on the grounds that fans should keep their hobby separate from their politics), & that Wollheim & Michel eventually broke with other Futurians which involved suing them for libel over statements in a fanzine. Due to the color of these statements, I'm wondering whether this information might be unnecessarily disruptive were I to add it. (If no one responds to this, I'll assume that I have consent to add the material, people can then read what de Camp wrote, & we'll go from there.) -- llywrch (talk) 01:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

There are several other sources for this material, which I agree is worth including: The Futurians by Damon Knight; The Way the Future Was, by Frederik Pohl; and The Immortal Storm, by Sam Moskowitz. I don't have the Moskowitz but own and have read the other two; they would be excellent sources, and there are probably others. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Pohl's book has information about the early fan scene? It's been years since I read it, & I can recall only a few details from it: his father's lack of business savvy, how he took the sale of if & Galaxy, & his resolve to write a fixed number of pages every day. One of these days I'll have to go back & read his book. -- llywrch (talk) 20:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

There's definitely some material there; there's a chapter called "Boy Bolsheviks" which at a glance looks to be mostly about them. There are also bits of material in Knight and Pohl's pieces in Hell's Cartographers, which is a very good read if you haven't already run into it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The Heinlein biography also mentions communists in the NY fan scene (as well as in 1930s pretty hard core socialist stuff that RAH was into at the time).71.246.144.154 (talk) 01:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not surprised: socialism/communism was quite the fad in intellectual circles in the 1930s. And people who wanted to be trendy were penalized in the 1950s during the Red Scare hysteria. -- llywrch (talk) 19:03, 15 November 2011 (UTC)