Talk:Edward Colston/References
List
[edit]- Garrard, T. (1852). Edward Colston, the philanthropist, his life and times: Including a Memoir of his father; the result of a laborious investigation into the archives of the city. OCLC 793570135.
- Wilkins, H. J. (1925). A chronological account of his life and work, together with an account of the Colston societies and memorials in Bristol. OCLC 629979568. supplement OCLC 17887906
- McGrath, P. (1975). The Merchant Venturers of Bristol. Bristol: Society of Merchant Venturers. OCLC 809578509.
- Morgan, Kenneth (1999). "Edward Colston and Bristol" (PDF). Local History Pamphlets. No. 96. Bristol Branch of the Historical Association. ISSN 1362-7759.
- Ball, Roger. "Myths within myths…Edward Colston and that statue". Bristol Radical History Group.
- Dresser, Madge (2009). "Remembering Slavery and Abolition in Bristol". Slavery & Abolition. 30 (2): 223–246. doi:10.1080/01440390902818955.
- Dresser, Madge (2000). "Squares of distinction, webs of interest: Gentility, urban development and the slave trade in Bristol c.1673–1820". Slavery & Abolition. 21 (3): 21–47. doi:10.1080/01440390008575319.
News organizations
[edit]- Cork, Tristan (22 July 2018). "The wording of second plaque proposed for Edward Colston statue linking him to 20,000 deaths". Bristol Post.
Discussion
[edit]Not sure age is relevant for biographical information, or for historical opinion.Slatersteven (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Going by Morgan's Bibliographic Note to begin with
This is disappointing; it is written in a flowery style and fails to cite evidence for many of its assertions.
feel free to change the notes. fiveby(zero) 14:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)- I thought this part was about disusing them?Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- heh, That's the first book on this list we got, Morgan as criticised Thomas Garrads book. Govvy (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- I thought this part was about disusing them?Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
As to local history societies and their books, if one local history society is not reliable none are.Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Don't see why this wouldn't be a useful source, the author looks qualified with related works. Here's some background for editors and peer review. fiveby(zero) 14:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Then he might pass as expert opinion.Slatersteven (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- He's a qualified academic publishing with peer review. Cited by Dresser, but i don't know in what context. Don't see any reason not consider reliable. I think if there were a conflict we should prefer journal publication, but otherwise completely usable. fiveby(zero) 14:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Then he might pass as expert opinion.Slatersteven (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
I think per WP:NEWSORG Scholarly sources and high-quality non-scholarly sources are generally better than news reports for academic topics
we should be careful to use certain sources only in the "Modern reappraisal" or "City-centre memorial statue" sections. fiveby(zero) 17:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
I think the top should be the list of refs, without comments or 'notes', and down here should be the discusions on each of them - a section for each. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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