Talk:Encirclement

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Shaka Zulu

How come Shaka Zulu doesn't get a mention? He had a similar technique that is commonly referred to as "the bull's horn" Dessydes 06:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Generals referred to

Currently this stub mentions "Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Sun Tzu, Wallenstein, Napoléon, Heinz Guderian, von Runstedt, Zhukov, and Patton" as famous Generals who used encirclement. I added in Heinz Guderian as I felt it was necessary that the creator of Blitzkrieg Doctrine is mentioned. However, that puts two German Generals of WWII on the page. Should this article expand I foresee many Generals being added as their respective adherents feel they warrant a mention. For example I cannot actually recall specific examples of George Patton initiating an encirclement, though his forces did take part in some. Were I to remove it, no doubt a fan of General Patton would replace it. I will not remove any Generals listed, but simply point out that it may become a problem. I wanted my reasoning for including Heinz Guderian to be stated: he developed Blitzkrieg, which was in part based on encirclement, whether that be the confusion caused by enemy units operating in the rear of formations, and usual subsequent panic to avoid encirclement, or the actual encirclements of units. For the record, I believe he also developed the idea of Hexenkessel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.130.145 (talk) 12:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In discussing the dangers of encircling, the article should mention friendly fire.

For example, from the Battle of Berlin article, "No plans were made by the Western Allies to seize the city by a ground operation.[29] The Supreme Commander [Western] Allied Expeditionary Force, General Eisenhower lost interest in the race to Berlin and saw no further need to suffer casualties by attacking a city that would be in the Soviet sphere of influence after the war,[30] envisioning excessive friendly fire if both armies attempted to occupy the city at once.[31]" MathewMunro (talk) 14:54, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]