Talk:Fire lane
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[edit]The "restrictions" external link is a broken one.71.255.184.96 (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Near a structure
[edit]The article defines a fire lane only as "a marked lane in a parking lot that is near a structure" but it is also a centre lane in New York City streets, marked "Fire lane". I have not added this to the article because I have no citations to support my observation. — O'Dea (talk) 08:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Here are pictures online of mid-street fire lanes in New York City: Picture 1, picture 2, picture 3, and picture 4. I have added a note about them to the article. — O'Dea (talk) 09:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Are there fire lanes in other countries?
[edit]Of course there are. Reading this article you'd think that they're only located in New York City, and that NY writes the rules for the whole world. I'd like to tag this article as being too focused on the United States, but I don't know how to.
I don't have information I can add related to where I live. That was the whole reason for my looking at this article.
--Craig (t|c) 03:32, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Lapsus Linguae: Why would you think that? There’s only one picture of a fire lane in NYC, otherwise there is no specific reference to NYC or other metropolis. There are of course sources, a couple of them focused on NYC’s fire lanes, but this does not mean fire lane was an NYC-only phenomenon. Feel free to research and add more sources corroborating the respective claims from other jurisdictions. I would appreciate that.
You can use {{Globalize}}, but I think the article is naturally “too focused on the United States”, because the US simply is a “car nation” (not having a driver’s license and a car being a real handicap), thus fire lanes are a concept focused on the US (to deal with traffic jams). If you can supply sources that say otherwise, it would be quite an improvement. However, we can’t artificially increase notability of fire lanes around the globe if they are rather unusual in their countries. For example, I know German traffic regulations do not have any kind of standardized fire lane sign or provisions for that. Nonetheless, it’s quite possible that a city posts a sign on a street saying 🚫 Einsatzfahrzeuge frei (No entry sign, with the words “emergency vehicles exempt” underneath). It’s just non-standard and hardly any German calls this a Feuerwehrspur. I’ve only seen this kind of signposting at the local medical center, but not downtown where you would expect it.
‑‑ K (🗪 | ✍) 13:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Of the five sources, all are American, and two of them are from New York, measurements are in the imperial system (feet as opposed to metres), and both images are American. I'm not here to complain about American car culture, just to state what I would say is a fairly obvious fact. Call me Captain Obvious.
- I already stated, "I don't have information I can add related to where I live. That was the whole reason for my looking at this article", so your telling me to add the information I don't have seems ironic. If my statement prompts others with more knowledge of the subject to contribute, all the better. My statement was certainly not meant to prompt an argument.
- Not sure why this debate seems to be so fierce, it's not a personal insult to you that this article focuses primarily on US fire lanes. There are indeed fire lanes in other countries. The UK has a handful, but they're definitely not a commonplace fixture as they are in parts of the US. Nevertheless, it's worth mentioning these in the article, and other international examples. I also think even just looking at the US perspective, this article is a bit of a data dump of legal regulations and could do with being summarised more. People can go to the citations if they want to find out the exact number of feet wide a fire lane must be. As for international fire lanes, there is a fire lane in Glasgow providing exclusive egress from a fire station. There is also apparently a fire path in London on Leather Lane? Kookas (talk) 12:38, 31 October 2021 (UTC)