Talk:Football records in England/Archive 1

Reference to Pre War GOAL INFLATION

With the Pre War era being an amateur, undeveloped, substandard era, slack rules/offside (sometimes non existant), goal inflation, easy scoring, with teams filled with local players only who had multiple jobs..and goal records galore...

most goals by a player in a game - 10 (1936) most goals by a player in top flight game - 7 (1935, Drake) most hat-tricks in a season - 9 (1926, Camsell) most top flight goals in a season - 128 (1931, Villa) most home goals in a season - 83 (1928, Millwall) most away goals in a season - 60 (1931, Arsenal) most goals in 1 day - 209 in 44 games (1936) most goals in a game - 13-4 (1936)

There should be more detail on this...also explain why the weak Pre War era is ignored and dismissed by contemporary writers and experts due to its lack of credibiity...and the use of the term "Post War" record is dominant in the media when the sport started to develop. 666 Eddie (talk) 05:40, 05 February 2010 (UTC)

Titles or Championships?

I just stumbled across this page and was struck by how odd it was to say 'league championships' instead of 'league titles'. To my knowledge, 'titles' is a far more common terminology. I'll leave it a few days for someone to reply, but after that I'll feel compelled to change it. -aheyfromhome, 03:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Debut records??

Fastest goal, fastest sending off etc. on a debut? Although I don't know how best to differenciate between someone making their career debut, their club debut, or their league/cup debut... Would be nice to have these records added here by someone in the know as I can't seem to track them down... 69.140.65.251 00:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Football League Records

Just as there is a Premier League section, this article would benefit from a Football League section, for the sake of completeness if nothing else. --172.189.16.2 10:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Top Goalscorers

The bit about Ryan Giggs being the only player to score in every season since the start of the premier league is a stupid and misleading statistic. He's also the only player to play in every season since the start of the premier league...

top goalscorers whilst in the premier e g oldham i think is graham sharp

JOHN BURRIDGE PREMIER OLDEST PLAYER

JOHN BURRIDGE DID PLAY MORE GAMES FOR MANCHESTER CITY AFTER COMING ON AGAINST NEWCASTLE

HE PLAYED THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASON AGAINST QPR ON 14TH MAY 1995 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.242.44 (talk • contribs)

surely burridge was older than hierro when he made his debut if he was 43 in 1995 and the premiership only started in 92. (comment by 213.202.189.197 moved from article to talk page by Jameboy)

I think debut refers to first match (in the top flight if necessary), but yes, the wording could be better 86.130.122.126 (talk)

Record for scoring in the most consecutive number of away games?

Which player holds the record for scoring in the most consecutive number of away games in the football league and how many games did he score in? This must not include any cup games and only apply to the first four English leauges. The number of goals is not important. I asked this on Yahoo Answers and I think I know the player but still did not find out the number of games that he scored in.

Preston with biggest FA Cup win?

As it says on the Preston page, the team defeated Hyde by 26-0 in the FA Cup of 15th Oct 1887.. isn't that a bigger win than Bury's 6-0? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jameswcheng (talk • contribs) 18:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Bury have the biggest win in the final. Preston have the biggest win in the competition as a whole. --Jameboy 22:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Most Premiership Appearances for One Club

1. Is this worth including, since most for one club is included in the overall league / premiership records.

2. Would it be Ryan Giggs, with 500+ as of April 2007?

Sorting Table: Most successful clubs overall (1888 - present)

The table currently sorts as text (ie 11, 9, 2 would be 9,2,11 in descending order. Can anyone sort it out? Ta. MikesPlant 10:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

How come the world club championship/intercontinental cup is not included in the table? Surley its more sought after than the European Super Cup?

If the Intercontinental Cup is included because one team won it one season, the 1985-86 League Super Cup (won by Liverpool) should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.219.255 (talk) 17:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I've reformatted the table and corrected all of the mistakes, so please don't undo! I've separated the FIFA Club World Cup from the Intercontinental Cup as the former is NOT a direct successor of the latter (they both overlapped from 2000 to 2004). I've incorporated the Inter-Fairs Cup with the UEFA Cup as that WAS a direct successor (and they didn't overlap).82.23.133.137 (talk) 20:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not comfortable with the fairs cup being included with the uefa cup. Firstly the fairs cup was invite only not based on merit, the exact reason that it ceased to exist. Basically everton finished in the position to gain entry but where denied because liverpool where already in the European cup. They complained and the decision was overturned and eventually the comp scrapped in favour of a fairer system.
Secondly Uefa do not see it as a the predecessor of the uefa cup (even though you are right that it did replace it, it is under a different system based on merit rather than being a the highest placed team in a trade fair city (baring if city rivals are in European cup already).
I believe the Inter cities fairs cup should be removed or alternatively its wins placed with brackets around wins: ()
However i do agree with the Club cup and Intercontinal being seperated. Xenomorph1984 (talk) 18:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Dear Xenomorph - you may have a point regarding the Fairs Cup. I'd say, if any changes do need to be made then put the number of Fairs Cup wins in brackets within the UEFA Cup column, rather than create an entirely new column as the Fairs Cup is just not important enough to deserve that, as you say. However, it would be unfair to leave the wins out altogether so putting the wins in brackets may be a good compromise. 82.23.133.137 (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a good compromise--Shakehandsman (talk) 04:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes it seems like a fair compromise. I watch the same page for Spain and there is a daily battle between Barca fans adding fairs cups and Real fans removing it! However, the Intertoto Cup??? Surely this should be removed. I can't for the life of me ever remember Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United , Everton or Spurs ever entering it. I'm not saying I value these clubs more but I think it shows that even big clubs won't bother with it if they failed to get in the UEFA cup that season. At first English clubs even refused to enter.

Highest Scoring League Game

Under the premier league section you have biggest away win as Newcastle 1-9 sunderland this however happened in 1907 a long time before the remier league existed it shoud be moved to a different section

Oldest league debutant

I have removed this record. Alan Oakes was indeed 42 when he made his Port Vale debut, but by that time he had played more than 700 games for Manchester City and Chester. Besides, Peter Shilton was 47 when he made his debut for Leyton Orient, and Neil McBain (the oldest player in the history of the league) was 51 when he made his debut for New Brighton.

However, all these players were veterans with several hundred league games on their CV before those games. IMO, the oldest debutant record must be for a player who did in fact make his league debut (i.e. first-ever league game) at a very high age. I have no idea who holds that record (I do know that Tony Book made his Football League debut at 30, but there have probably been even older debutants than him), and that record holder is most likely some obscure player that few people have heard about. --Badmotorfinger (talk) 21:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Manegers records

This list clerly lacks more info about manager records. 85.220.35.117 (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Quickest goal scorer

Ive read Yakabu scored after 47 seconds, but the BBC text commentary has him at 5 seconds.

Ledley King was the offical holder before hand at 10 seconds. So was his record broken? 77.99.186.110 (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• He scored after 5 seconds of play, but the goal was from a freekick, which obviously took time to set up. King's goal was with ten seconds on the clock, so remains the fastest to date. Oli (talk) 00:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a similar problem with Bendtner's "fastest goal as a substitute" record as recorded in the article: in the overall records it's shown as 1.8 seconds, in the Premiership records it's shown as 6 seconds. Presumably the latter includes the time he spent running onto the pitch before the ref blew his whistle to restart the game. Clearly a consensus needs to be arrived at as to which is the proper way to record it. I have no preference myself. Lancevortex (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Fastest Recorded Premiership Goal (Speed)

How is this possibly verifiable? I haven't removed the section, as it's possible someone has some evidence, but, not only is MOTD's analysis not reliable, but they don't measure the speed of every goal. This makes it very possible that a harder shot has been hit - there's no reason why a tap in couldn't be hit at 80+mph, it's just that no one would have bothered to measure it! Oli (talk) 00:05, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The longest premier league goals are measured in the same way. Nobody cared to wonder if that was verifiable. 77.99.186.110 (talk) 11:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Top flight appearances (team)

I thought a) Arsenal were in Division 1 from 1919, and even if not, b) the number of seasons does not seem to take into account suspension of the League due to WWII. Is it "right" to say a team is in a division even if the season is not played? (I'll accept the consectutive nature spanning the war period) ? 86.130.122.126 (talk) 10:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[edit]

In the article, it is stated that Most Appearances before playing outside the top flight for the first time. (i.e. the last team never to have played outside the top flight): 68, Sunderland A.F.C (1890-1958)

The statement in bold is wrong, since Sunderland were not founder members of the top flight, so cannot, at any point in time have claimed to have never been outside the top flight during the top flight's existence. The real record holders are Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers. Perhaps Sunderland's record could be something along the lines of 'longest debut' (Hope that makes sense)

Also, the text says 68 appearances, but wartime football didn't involve the conventional 'top-flight', so the real number must be around 58.

Funkyduncan (talk) 11:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Six players to play in every season of the Premier League

I notice from these records that Andrew Cole is not included alongside Speed, Giggs, James, Butt, Pearce and Campbell. Can this be checked please!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.245.255 (talk) 14:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Cole was with Bristol City then Newcastle in 92/93. Newcastle were promoted at the end of the season. Catchpole (talk) 11:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Youngest player to reach 300 appearances (premiership)

I'm not taking away the fact that this is an impressive feat, but it's a bit arbitrary isn't it? Is it really worthy of mentioning here/ would it perhaps be better placed on the player's own page? 82.13.151.148 (talk) 16:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Most successful clubs overall (1888 - present)

Surely this should be sorted by the total on the far right? We are talking about how successful a club is that is based in England, not how much domestic success they have had. That said, sorting by domestic total is far better than the current 'weighted' approach. Saying the FA cup is more important than the league cup is a reflection on recent history with some clubs being less inclined to field a full strength side, sometimes in favour of their European ambitions. I'm not a fan of either, but surely Spurs and Nottingham Forest would be considered a more successful club than Huddersfield town who have just 5 domestic titles? This just is not sorted in a logical fashion to a neutral. Halogon (talk) 23:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

No, Huddersfield are clearly the more successful team of those three. Five League titles is a brilliant achievement - anything else is secondary and with knock-out competitions a side can easily progress through many rounds with easy ties etc.--Shakehandsman (talk) 15:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

well i think as this is the table for the most successfull Football club in ENGLAND, it should be according to league titles, then FA cup then League cup as it is right now. The European cup/champions league is not an English competition... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 57.250.245.249 (talk) 16:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

But the clubs are still from England when they play in Europe. It would be insane to put a joke competition such as the League Cup ahead of the Champions League.--Shakehandsman (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I think the order of this Table should be by Total Titles won, who is to say a League Title is more important than the FA Cup. Zarcom (talk) 05:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much everyone in the game would say the league title is more important than the FA Cup. Using your logic winning the Charity Shield (a one-off game) is just as great an achievement as beating 20 other teams to the league title over 38 games.--Shakehandsman (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It's based on League titles, then FA Cup's. If United win the League next year they should move above Liverpool. I don't it should be overall because its harder to win the League than adding Super Cups and Charity Shields. Xenomorph1984 (talk) 09:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

It should go on who's won the most overall because that's the aim of the game, or at least have one of those arrow buttons along the top so people can organise it how they like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.35.50 (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

So most players/fans/managers would rather just win the League Cup say six times and four Charity Shields, rather than six Premier League titles and three Champions Leagues? Collecting pointless trophies where most of the entrants field weakened sides isn't the aim of the game at all.--Shakehandsman (talk) 15:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

If it's going to be based on difficulty-to-win then surely it should go by league titles, then european titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.89.59 (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It's about success, not collecting random Charity Shield trophies or Johnson's Paint cups. The order should be League titles, Champions League titles then perhpas FA Cups.--Shakehandsman (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

To Pretty Green: It has always been "Most successful clubs overall" why are you changing it to total titles won? Is it because you would like you team higher on the log?

See below. AJCham 21:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Longest winless streak

On 16th August 2008, Derby County broke the English football record for longest run of league games without a win, with 34 games (from September 2007 to August 2008) The previous record holders were Cambridge United with 33 games, the day they got relegated from division two in 1984. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkyduncan (talk • contribs) 11:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Highest win %

First time in this page. Can't find highest win percentage? — Axel147 (talk) 22:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Goals from positions

Positions are somewhat subjective, and Cristiano Ronaldo labeled as a midfielder is possibly not strictly accurate. Also took out the goalkeepers scoring section at that point as it was written in better detail further down as well. Also 'longest goal' as it was labeled got erased because it was written further down under a more appropriate heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunsnroses15 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Lowest finish by the previous season's champions

"Lowest finish by the previous season's champions: 7th, Blackburn Rovers (1995-96)" -surely that would be Leeds who finished 17th? tali 11/09/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.161.249 (talk) 00:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Lowest attendance.

Wasn't it proved at the time that during the spell when the old Wimbledon's clubs boycotted their matches because of the proposed move to Milton Keynes if various kinds of "creative" measures hadn't been taken to artificially bump up the figures on at least 1 or 2 occasions (evening kick-off in winter, small distant away team with fans at least partially supporting the boycott etc)the actual paying attendances would have been below the 469 of Thames included here.I seem to remember some supporter/reporters estimating the actual figures although I can't remember exactly what they were now (possibly less than 300?)or who the opposition were.

You people never learn

The faris cup is not a predecessor. it was a sepearate competition that was not run by UEFA, hence it not being a predecessor so the uefa cup is a whole new competition run by uefa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.106.253 (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Fanboys

Wikimedia has seriously got to consider only allowing experienced editors to modify stuff like this. As much as anyone I like the fact that Wikipedia allows anyone to edit, but this page is just full of over-enthusiastic fanboys wanting to put up their teams achievements / rivals failures. I must have seen Man Utd record breaking games without conceding about half a dozen times, mostly in completely the wrong section like 'Team Wins'. Total idiots, who post this, about in line with the intelligence of an average glory hunter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunsnroses15 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

It hurts being a loser but the numbers don't lie. 212.129.94.172 (talk) 17:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Most own goals in one season: 5, Arsenal-4ever (Booghchies (MUFC, 1934-35)

Whats going on with this, arsenal-4ever??? I don't know what it should be or I would fix. CipherPixel (talk) 00:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Simple vandalism. It was abut 3 revisions back. I've reverted that revision and warned the perpetrator. srushe (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing every record

What are the chances this page is rewritten and organised, and only including records with proper sources, or at least other wiki pages (such as player profiles) that have been sourced properly? CipherPixel (talk) 02:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Shortest ever substitute appearance

In tonight's thrilling fixture between Chelsea, and Liverpool, Chelsea's Didier Drogba was substituted off deep into injury time, and was replaced by Franco Di Santo, who seemed to be on the pitch for approximately one second before the full-time whistle was blown. Should this be included as the shortest ever substitute appearance? --T.M.M. Dowd (talk) 20:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it was a Champions League match and that is not the subject of this particular article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.121.199 (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Disciplinary

As this article appears to relate to the Football League and Premier League only, the sending off of the Chippenham Town player after 3 seconds, whilst possibly a world record for senior football, does not appear to qualify in this category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.121.199 (talk) 22:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

113?

In the table at the end of the article, it lists Liverpool's total as 113, can't see where this is from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.77.200 (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Chris Nichol - Goals Individual

Chris Nicholl of Aston Villa scored all four goals in a 2-2 draw, against Leicester City in 1976.

Is this even worthy of an entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.20.233 (talk) 08:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Only is there is an appropriate section for it to go in, not really worth creating a whole new record for one record though. --Gillea2k8 (talk) 18:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

non league most successful teams table towards the bottom of the page?

Just an idea: maybe a non league competitions table: league titles, fa trophy, fa vase etc... could be included to show who the most successful nonleague teams are? I don't have to ability to create one but perhaps someone cleverer could do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gillea2k8 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Johnstone paint trophy records

Johnstones paint trophy records could be included also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gillea2k8 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Most successful clubs

There's an idiot who has modified the table of the clubs' victories. Who is he? He seems a hacker. Physiology, 10:50 (CEST) 01 May 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Physiology (talk • contribs) 08:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I would like to point out that there is a great flaw in the measurement of success for English football clubs. According to this page, the Manchester United page and the Liverpool page. Success of a football club seems to be being measured upon the number of trophies a club has one regardless of their inherent quality and respectability. According to the chart showing 'the most successful football clubs' Manchester United is one trophy ahead of Liverpool making it more successful... but that simply isn't true. Manchester United may have one a single league title more than Liverpool - but everybody knows that Liverpool's extra two champions league trophies count for much more. An apt way for a 'success chart' to be constructed would be under comparable rules with how a football league table is drawn i.e. with varying amounts of points for different trophies - a champions league cup could be worth 10 points whilst a league title might be worth 5 and an FA cup 3 etc, etc. This would be a much more sensible way to construct such a chart because, by judging club's successes on the quantity of trophies won - rather than their quality - a club with 60 league cup trophies and no others would be the most successful team in English football. Folks can you see my point?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.237.127 (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

It's not up to us to invent ranking systems for different trophies. --Pretty Green (talk) 08:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Ranking system is irrelevant, as you only need 13 games to win CL, and you could in theory draw your way all the way through to the final, and get through on penalities all the time. In PL 38 drawns could get you relegated. 157.157.39.241 (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Liverpool's last Champions League win also would not count, or be worth at most only 1 point, as they hadn't won a league title to qualify, and indeed hadn't done so for the past 15 years. Feudonym (talk) 08:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Promotion and Relegation

Most promoted club(s) and player(s) and perhaps manager(s), as well as most relegated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.216.1.16 (talk) 00:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Missing from this page

I'm trying to find it on the internet. If someone has a reference, can they supply it?

Best start to a premiership/division 1 season (games without dropping a point)

--Nyelvmark (talk) 18:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Farcical most successful club criteria

Including Charity shield as an honour????? Absurd. In independent ranking lists only MAJOR trophies are included. The charity shield aint an actual honour. Aston Villa are a vastly more successful team than Everton... to include 9 charity shields (the trophy has been shared many times in its history as it aint a trophy to win) is farcical. Aston Villa have won 20 MAJOR honours... to Evertons 15. Of that difference is Villa's European Cup, 2 FA Cups, and 5 League Cups... to Everton's 2 leagues and cup winners cup. Based on ranking points that various independent sources award to each trophy.. Villa are quite some distance ahead.

--HowieArnold (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I disgaree. The FA Community Shield is still an official trophy and should be included. Just like the UEFA Super Cup or the FIFA Club World Cup. However, the Intertoto Cup shouldn't be included in my opinion since it was only a pre-season competition which was effectively a qualification round for the UEFA Cup, and for some seasons it actually had multiple winners. It cannot be considered a normal competition like the rest.VoiceCom80 (talk) 22:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

EIther way Villa are still going to be ranked behind Everton due to winning the league fewer times.

Stadiums - attendance

Currently this says: "Highest attendance, single game: 76,097, Manchester United v. Blackburn Rovers (at Old Trafford, 31 March 2007)"

This is quoted as 76,098 elsewhere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Trafford_(football_ground)#2006_expansion and http://www.aboutmanutd.com/man-u-matches/31-03-2007-blackburn-rovers.html

Halogon (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Highest FA Cup attendance

Currently says Football_records_in_England#All_rounds:

• Highest FA Cup attendance (of all time): 121,919 (Aston Villa v. Sunderland, Final at Crystal Palace, 19 April 1913)
• Highest attendance at Wembley: 126,047 (Bolton Wanderers v. West Ham United, Final, 28 April 1923)

So doesn't that make the 1923 final the highest of all time? Or am I missing something? -- Phil Barker 17:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This has yet to be addressed. I'm assuming the first entry is the record before Wembley was used for the final, as cited here, although that curiously lists the attendance for the final as 120,028, and this slightly more official-looking Match Report as 120,081. If there is no response or reference given for any of the figures, I shall amend the entry title and change it to the latter figure, possibly also listing the other figures in parentheses. Feudonym (talk) 03:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

What are Premiership runners-up medals?

Do they exist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.247.32 (talk) 22:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know I haven't seen one. 157.157.39.241 (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

There is no such medal. the Premier League only give medals to the first place.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Most consecutive Away games without a win.

Gillingham have now gone 33 away games without a win. Is this a record for an English team in the Football league —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.121.240 (talk) 00:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

No, Bradford Park Avenue lost the final 56 away games they played in the FL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.52.35 (talk) 23:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Most promoted/relegated team

I think that it would be very interesting to know which teams have been promoted or relegated the furthest distance in their existence (e.g., have any teams started in League One and been promoted all the way to the Premiership?) Jdfoote (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC) Man City did it under Keegan and Norwich have done it this year under Lambert. Also Hull and Wigan have gone from League 2 to the prem in a few years recently, though not consecutively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.252.118 (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposal for deletion

I have proposed the deletion of this information from the encyclopedia because it is not, and in my opinion will never become, an actual article. It is a list of dates and numbers and can not by its nature attract enough text to change that. I think this sort of thing should be left to football yearbooks and other record books that cover the subject in this way. As secondary reasons I would point out that this is a magnet for trivia and pointless arguments over records. Britmax (talk) 15:27, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Highest number of different clubs to score for:

Not sure if there is a source that says this but Andy Cole and Les Ferdinand have certainly also scored for 6 different premier league teams but I have no idea if there are any others so would suggest this one should be deleted unless someone has a reliable source which can give a definite answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.25.203 (talk) 00:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

See here - List of Premier League players with 100 or more goals. same as the name is, it list all players with more than 100 goals and the club they scored for, they are listed there with 6 clubs, I doubt we will ever find a source for ALL players, but that article is the best place for it.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 20:38, 29 May 2011 (UTC)